My saying “not the government” is because people are saying “patalsikin si Gloria” (kick out Gloria) or “patalsikin siya,” whoever is in power. I think people are focusing on the wrong things to “patalsik.” Who we elect is our own fault. It is a product of our culture. Thus, what I propose: patalsikin ang culture natin.
Some Filipinos may be proud to boast that their culture is a caring, loving, and beautiful culture. But when you analyze more deeply, it is also an intolerant, inflexible, anti-intellectual and oppressive, and therefore ugly, culture. It is the culture that deceives people into thinking that they’re doing right when if fact they’re doing wrong, and yet they scratch their heads wondering what they’ve done wrong.
Proof of this is seen everywhere.
When Erap became president, some people were aghast that a gambler, drunkard, womanizer and crime lord was elected to the highest office of the land. But what does that tell about the culture of the people?
We elect a leader who we believe will follow the people’s will, but later on, the people will go to the streets wanting this leader to resign. So when Erap left, GMA took over, and now nearly everyone wants her out. It’s funny since GMA had even more votes than Erap when she was elected for vice president.
We have a culture of hypocrite masculinity. We have a religious culture, and we have men who can pray the rosary and go to mass everyday. But they later get drunk, they hit on their neighbors’ wives, bear many children, and then blame the government for not supporting them.
We have a culture wherein “go forth and multiply” is practiced by the squatters and jobless (and even encouraged by the Catholic church), while the well-off and rich know better than to generate armies of children.
Ours is a culture of “Binuhi sa Nurse,” where the OFW mothers and wives send money home, and that money is used by husbands and sons for their hypocrite masculinity.
Children today, when they grow up, want to become artistas instead of true artists, graphic designers, computer engineers and doctors. All thanks to the stupidity that is Wowowee and local TV (that is in the hands of manipulative oligarchs like the Lopezes).
We seem to be the only known “balikbayan box” culture in the world, wherein huge boxes of consumer goods are what OFWs bring home to their families. Filipino culture is heavily consumerist, and yet they wonder why their country can’t push itself up on the world scale.
We have a culture wherein shouting seems to be the only way to use a cellphone when inside a public vehicle or even a church when a mass or service is going on!
We have a culture wherein, instead of excellence, Filipinos pursue puede na yan, bahala na and impunity.
We have an arrogant triumphalist culture, that we boast to other countries’ people that Manny Pacquiao can beat up their boxers and we use racist insults in doing so. And yet when foreigners like Adam Carolla and Chip Tsao react to this and criticize us, we get mad at them and act like stupid adolescents, even if they were right after all. We act as if no nation has the right to joke or insult us, and that we have the right to bully them. And yet we like to imitate foreigners, like in using a lot of skin whitening products or copying their shows like American Idol and Big Brother.
Our culture is anti-intellectual; it puts logic in the backseat and makes emotion the king of all decision-making.
And thus we have a culture wherein we blame the government for our problems, but fail to realize that we ourselves have corruption and are thus responsible as well for our condition.
The problem is when someone objects to all these. For example, when abroad, an OFW decides to not subscribe to The Filipino Channel because they don’t like the bias and mediocrity of local TV. Other Filipinos will chide him as unpatriotic and “un-Filipino,” or even a traitor. The poor person who used his head will be the subject of unwarranted criticism and hate from fellow countrymen for the rest of their OFW term.
Yes, Filipino culture is itself perhaps one of the most tyrannical elements of the country and is helping keep it backwards.
I believe one solution is that people should develop the gall to question and object to our culture when they see the need to. We should not be afraid to say culture is “evil” and stupid. We already know that James Fallows described it as a damaged culture. And BenK even said that the Philippines is a failed state – all thanks to our culture.
As an example of my approach, I’d like to look at local customs and traditions that we can object to or criticize. Some may recall that the Bocaue Pagoda tragedy was because of people overloading a pagoda that was even hastily made with shoddy material (rotten wood, rusted nails, etc.). They would rather build a life-risking boat than skip on the tradition. Another is the Nazareno procession at Quiapo, where people die yearly because of their foolishness. Or even the traditions during Holy Week where people are literally nailed to crosses. If people won’t celebrate a tradition without going through unnecessary risks for these traditions, then best scrap the traditions. But there are people who will obstinately say that these are “part of our culture” and can’t be done away with.
If people think destroying a tradition is cruel or harsh, let’s look abroad. Perhaps a worse tradition than anything in the Philippines is the African custom of cutting a female’s clitoris as a puberty rite. This is clearly cruel mutilation and should be stopped. Yet some will say it is their tradition and forms part of their culture and identity. You have to run roughshod over culture to do the right thing.
The ironic thing is that culture is not law, yet it is treated as something more sacred than law. But like law, culture is manmade. It isn’t a natural thing. People concoct what they put in their culture. Sometimes it happens unconsciously. We must take advantage of this trait to influence people around us to change the culture into one that is more thoughtful and much less ethno- and egocentric than before.
I’m sure there are people who’ll say to me, “So you don’t like the culture here? Then leave!”
P.I. MO!
I am a citizen of this country and have every right to have my voice heard and make real the kind of society I see as the right one. Culture can be a deadly enemy, and we have every right to disobey and object to it. If anything is the problem, it’s our culture. Because no matter what president we elect, it’s our culture that will either raise our country to heaven, or drive it into the deepest pits of hell.
| About: Chino: Chino is a freelance work-at-home writer and aspiring artist based in Quezon City. He blames the hardship of life in the Philippines on a repressive and uneducated culture, which is also the cause of corruption and dysfunction in the country. He thus makes it his personal goal to oppose and criticize the parts of Philippine culture that he sees as damaging and advocate cultural reform. |
Great! Already reposting it on FB!
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The author nail it… I’ll be sharing this in FB…
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death blow! out for the first blood. la vérité vous rendra libres!
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The title alone speaks for itself.
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Thanks, all. I was in emo mode when I posted this (blew my stack, hehe). So posting this is my way of venting out. Besides, all my articles are vent-outs.
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I agree with this point. Parati na lang sinisisi ng mga Pilipino ang mga nakaluklok sa posisyon when in fact, it was us who elected them. Lahat na lang isinisisi natin sa gobyerno without even thinking na we’re not doing our part to help the government.
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I think Jon Stewart put it nicely:
“You have to remember one thing about the will of the people: it wasn’t that long ago that we were swept away by the Macarena.”
Just replace “Macarena” with “Ocho-Ocho” or “Spaghetti” dances in recent memory and voila he’s talking about the Philippines.
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Or you may think that the problem of the Philippines is not it’s failure of Filipinos, it is also a clear demonstration of failure of the human race.
The problem is too huge that no known solution other than leaving the country is possible.
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I don’t follow what you’re saying. The entire human race has a problem but the solution is to leave the country? To where? I would assume to a place that is populated by… humans.
I don’t think anyone can deny the entire human race has problems, but the problem with the Philippines is not something for the entire human collective to solve. Only its citizenry can do that.
I know I shared this story on one of my comments on Filipino Voices a while back: One time a friend and I met a Korean man in Cavite. He asked why we think the Philippines was in the state it is in now and to think that some people still remember when the Philippines used to provide aid to South Korea. My friend was quick to respond that it was because the government was bad but the people are good. The Korean man said to the effect that that was a stupid explanation because where did the government come from? Didn’t they come from the same pool of people? The same country, the same schools, walked the same streets and shopped at the same shopping centres? It was a harsh wake up call for me with us being blindly “patriotic” at the time (looking back, I realise we didn’t know what patriotism means). Sometimes we need to take harsh criticism constructively.
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J.B. Reply:
April 27th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
The world is getting smaller and leaving the country can create a critical mass of change unadulterated by oligarchic influence.
Look at BongV and Benig0. These are clear proofs that those who leave will eventually take care. Moving to another country can provide new perspective and eventually useful for the country both economically and politically.
Citizenry can only manifest if and only if the people can understand and live with the concept. Let them leave the country and they will find out among themselves there are still things left for them to care.
As to the problem of the human race, da Pinoys demonstrated the base-human pleasures in themselves. For example, Mikey Arroyo was still all smiles even caught red handed. We Filipinos abhor the teenage brat and yet we elect them in congress or senate.
Kindly see my complete blog for what humanity problem is all about http://www.maconians.org/?p=1352
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see,it is not the government’s fault(as it said on the topic)but it is themselves that is 2 blame.We Filipinos need to change our attitude 1st and Philippines will have discipline.
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Great article ChinoF!!! Pinoys are also not doing their part in making the government one that can be effective. I hope they do not elect now someone who they can blame later.
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tatagalugin ko na lang, dahil mas magandang pagusapan ang kulturang pilipino sa ganitong wika, at ang mga tututol dahil sa hindi pagkaintindi ay walang karapatang tumuligsa.
una sa palagay ko, ang pilipinas ang isa sa may pinakamagandang kultura sa mundo. hindi ko kasi naranasan ang ibang kultura. pero isa-isahin natin. isa ang pilipinas sa mga bansa na may mataas na pagtingin sa babae. isa ang pilipinas sa may matinding kapit sa pamilya. magalang tayo sa matatanda. mabuting tumanggapng bisita. ilan lang ito sa mga natatandaan ko noong GMRC days sa elementarya.
ang argumento kasing naisulat ay dapat sisihin ang kultura higit sa gobyerno. tutol ako nambongga. ang gobyerno ang sumisikil sa mga mamamayan upang bumubo ng hindi magagandang kultura.
Unahin natin kay Erap. hindi naman alam ng mga tao na sugarol, lasenggo, babaero at panginoon ng krimen si Erap bago siya ihalal. lumabas lang ang isyu na ito noong may nagnais magpatalsik sa kanya. at hindi buong bansa ang nagnais nun. iilang tao lang na ginamit ang buong bansa. kung may kultura mang naganap dito, ay madaling maniwala sa sabi-sabi ang mga Pilipino.
sa totoo lang, hindi naman si GMA ang gusto ng mga tao noon na maupo pagkatanggal kay Erap, pero nakagawa ng paraan si GMA na makuha ang posisyon. marahil, siya talaga ang may gustong mapaalis si Erap sa pwesto. ngayon, sa isyu naman ng pagkanais ng mga taong matanggal si GMA, hindi na ito isyu matapos ang EDSA rev 2. alalahanin nating nagkaroon na ulit ng eleksyon kung saan ayon sa sabi-sabi rin na nandaya siya. itong sabi-sabi ring ito ang nagpatalsik kay Erap, ngunit bakit hindi nito magawang patalsikin si GMA. dahil nasa gobyerno si GMA at siya ang nasa kapangyarihan.
tungkol sa issue mo nang pagkalalaki. hasty generalisation. totoong we have men who can pray the rosary and go to mass everyday, pero hindi nila ginagawa iyun. kaya nila pero hindi nila ginagaa. not unless prayle sila, na tututol naman sa katuloy ng talatang ito na “bear many children.”
ukol sa go forth and multiply. alalahanin nating ang katolisismo ay acquired culture. galing iyan sa mga kastila kaya ang go forth and mulitply ay hindi natin kultura. ipinamukha lang sa atin, at bilang masunuring bansa. sumunod naman tayo. pero higit pa sa kultura. tungkulin ng gobyerno na panatilihing mulat, matalino at angat sa kahirapan ang populasyon ng bansa, at hindi ito nagagawa ng gobyerno. kung sapat ang trabaho sa pilipinas, at kung sapat ang edukasyon ng mga mamamayan, ang mga tambay sa kantong nagpaparami lang ng anak ay may ibang gagawin higit sa go forth and multiply. ang mga squaters ba ay magsisiksikan sa maynila kung ang local na gobyerno na probinsya nila o nang kanayunan ay nakakapagbigay ng hanapbuhay sa kanilang lugar?
at diyan na rin papasok ang issue ng mga OFW. hindi naman kultura ng mga Pilipino ang maging proud sa mga OFW. ipinalulunok sa atin ito ng gobyerno. binu-boost ang ego ng mga pinoy na alipin sa ibang bansa at pinapangalanan silang bayani. pero gusto ba talaga nitong mga ito na mangibambansa? hindi. mas gusto nila sa pamilya nila, ngunit hindi sapat ang trabaho at kita dito sa Pilipinas at tungkulin ng pamahaalan na gawin ito. at paano mo naman nasabing ang perang ginagamit nila ay napupunta sa hypocrite masculinity, hindi naman yata magandang konotasyon na para sa iyo, mga babae lang ang mga OFW.
tanungin natin bakit gusto ng mga kabataang maging artista, at hindi mga tunay na artists o kung anumang propesyunal. una, sinong buhay buhay na doktor ba ang pinakikilala sa mga bata, ilan sila? may scientist ba sa pilipinas? kilala ba sila ng mga batang ito? hindi binibigyan ng pamahalaan ng totoong opsyon itong mga batang ito. at huling argumento, anong masama sa pag-a-aspire na maging artista? Nora Aunor is a very good actress, masamang mangarap na maging katulad niya? Hindi ba totoong sining ang ipinakitang galing ni Nora Aunor? grabe namang pangmamaliit iyan sa isang industriya. Sige sisihin natin ang Wowowee pero huwag nating i-brand ang mga Lopezes nan gpagiging manipulative. ang lahat ng media ay minamanipula ng mga nasa kapangyarihan.
nakakalungkot na ang tinutukoy mong mga kultura ay maliliit. ilang tao ba ang sumisigaw kapag may kausap sa cellphone at ilan ang naiirita doon sa taong iyon? kung sasabihin nating ang kultura ay ang ginagawa ng mas marami. may kultura tayong mainis sa mga taong sumisigaw sa kausap sa cellphone. hindi ko na i-expound. gets na yan.
ako bilang tao, ginagamit ko ang salitang pwede na iyan at bahala na. pero alam mo ba ang standards ng isang Pilipino kapag sinabi niyang pwede na yan at bahala na?
kung tungkol naman sa pagiging sensitibo naman natin sa kritisismo ng iba, sa palagay ko ay generaliation na naman iyan. marahil may mga nagagalit, pero may mga nakakaintindi rin. at kung sasabihin mong mas marami ang nagagalit, e di sige.dalawang punto ang maaaring ihain diyan, una, hindi naturuan ang mga may violent reaction ng humor or proper understanding of the situation. at ikalawa, nakakagalit naman kapag nakakanti. pagtutol naman lagi ang unang reaksyon kapag sinabihan ng masama. at sa mga boxing naman ni pacquiao, nagsasapakan na nga sila, anu ba naman yung makisigaw rin. okay lang iyun, pwede na iyun.
sa huli, mali na ang kultura natin ay anti-intellectual. ang pamahalaan natin ang anti-intellectual. dahil pinapanatili ng pamahalaan na kulang sa edukasyon ang mga pilipino. na mahirap sila. na nasisilaw sa kunting ibibigay. bakit? dahil mas kapaki-pakinabang ang mga pilipino para sa mga nasa gobyerno kung sila ay nasa ganitong sitwasyon.
sinabi mong “we ourselves…are responsible…for our condition!” kung tinutukoy mo ang we, bilang indibidwal, maniniwala ako sa iyo. pero parang tinutukoy mo ang isang lahi. parang we, as filipinos. hindi naman makatarungan iyun, dahil may mga pilipinong nagnanais isulong ang isang magandang bansa, pero pinipigilan sila ng pamahalaan.
ipagpatawad ang galit ko. oo, galit ako sa artikulong ito, dahil kinakalat ito sa facebook na maaaring maka-move ng ibang tao. at bilang pilipino, hindi ako papayag na sisihin ang kultura ko. itong kulturang ito ang humubog sa akin bilang tao. sa kulturang ito ako pinalaki ng aking mga magulang, dito ako pinatalino ng mga guro ko mula pa elementarya. at hindi ako papayag na yurakan lang ang lahat ng iyon.
nakakalungkot pa na may ad si Gordon sa page mo.
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BongV Reply:
April 27th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
mag sinbuano na lang ko kay nagtagalog man ka. aron magkasinabot ta. maayo na unta tong english. apan kay nagpadala man ka sa imong gibati, hala padayon.
unsaon nimo pagsulti nga pinakamakaganda apan wa pa ka nakakita sa laing kultura – nahulog na hinuon kang nagpataka ug nagbuot-buot.
gi-unsa pagtaas ug tan-aw sa babaye nga nagkalata ra ang burikat sa atong mga dalan – wa ka kilati ug colored?
kusog ug kapit sa pamilya – hastang kusoga nga bisan 35 anyos na gaipon ra gihapon ag gapabuhi sa ginikanan. unsay naka-maganda niana?
kota ra ba diay ang nagpakita ug katahod sa tiguwang. pakitawaong ra gihapon, buotan kunohay sa tiguwang, apan sige ug pangilkil ug kwarta – unsay naka-maganda niana?
mao lagi ba – ang gobyerno ang pasanginlan sa iyang binuhatan. ang imong gobyerno dili mahimugna kung dili pilion sa katwahan. ang kaatwahan ang nipili sa mga gapadagan sa gobyerno – sila ang manubag – alangan namang mobunga ug lubi ang mangga.
unsang wa kahibalo ang mga tawo. gapataka ra ka. wa pay eleksyon ninggawas na ng mga istoryaha. ang tawo kunsintidor gyud – bahala na nnay kabit, kerida, ug mga goons – basta kay sikat, boto – mao nay gidangat ninyo. ang kultura mao ni – basta sikat, iboto – da, gipangabaan lagi inig kahugno sa ekonomiya.
kanang “marahil” ug ” “sa totoo lang” dili pwede mag-uban sa usa ka sentence kay gasumpaki ng duha – either tinuod a dili. kanang “marahil” magulang ra na sa buot-buot.
matud pa “fool me once, shame on you – fool me twice, shame on me” – laos na nang people power ninyo dong. ug gusto mo ug people power – pagtarong mo ug boto!
klaro kaayo ang context – malalaki/mababaye/matigulang/mabato/mabayot/matomboy – muampoy kunohay, apan ang batasan hastong mauta – dili makaon sa tawo, buotan pay iro ug iring.
okay ang katolisismo gikan sa kultura sa kastila, kastila si Kristo???
naunsa na man ka dong oy.
ang gobyerno naay trabaho nga magtinarong, apan ang responsibilidad sa pagpatarong sa gobyerno, naa sa katawhan. nganong mag-eleksyon pa man ta – ug ang tawo ang kinahanglang mu-elect kung ang gobyerno ra man diay magbuot buot. ayaw palabi sa victim mentality – kay musamot ka ug kapahoy.
ug makakita ka ug laki nga na sa pilipinas, ang babaye tua sa saudi – ang laki way trabaho, gadawat ra ug kwarta, unya iinom pa gyud – unsa may imong gustong tawagon niana – santo niño?
Wa ka kurati – nisamot kaklaro ang pagkamanipulative sa mga Lopez. tan-awa ra ning katonto ni Geny sa pagpalusot nianing mga TV Ad ni noynoy nga puno ug ka-abnoy. imong ipanghambog ang industriya pelikula sa pilipinas? kanang imong nga sineng puro ra katabang, kabit ug burikat? pastilan dong, salamat na lang sa kape ug tinapay, pagsolo sa imong nora aunor.
Pilipino sad imong kaistorya, busa kahibalo sad sya sa standards nga pwede na. ug sa balay pa na, bisan lihang ang finishing – “pwede na” – maayo kaayo tamparuson.
naay generalizatoin nga sakto ug naay generalization nga simang. kung gamay ang naghimo ug imong generalize – mali. apan kung daghan ang naghimo, makageneralize gyud ka. tan-awa ra tong mga uplok nga nagtubag ni carolla – mas daghan ang mga uplok ug ignorante – therefore makageneralize gyud ang lain nga ang mga Pinoy uplok ug ignorante. ug di mo gusto mo masita, ayaw mo pabadlong.
unsang mali? mao ba? gobyerno na sad pasanginlan? unsaon nimo pabag-ohon imong gobyerno kung ang imong mga botante – dili muboto ug intellectual nga kandidato. na hala, dili anti-illectual ang pinoy – pro-ignorant lang.
mao na ni ron. gipugngan ka ni erap. therefore, sala ni erap. kinsay niboto kay erap aber? – giatay man ning istoryaha oi.
dong, wake up and smell your etchas – “pinoy culture” is written all over you – Exhibit #2 – Clueless AP
na, gi-apil pa gyud si gordon sa kwanggol. unsa may gusto nimo – imong nawong ibutang sa page?
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Anonylol Reply:
April 27th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Can we has translation for the Cebuano (??) impaired?
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Ma Xianding Reply:
April 27th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Ang pangit ni Abet magsulat.
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abet Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 6:11 am
ako pa ang pangit magsulat.
tingnan mo nga ang sentence construction mo.
hindi ko alam ang definition mo ng aesthetics sa pagsusulat.
sa natutunan ko kasi sa Filipino sa pormal na pagsusulat its either
Pangit magsulat si Abet.
Ang sulat ni Abet ay pangit.
anong simuno mo, anong panaguri? or hindi naman siguro font ang tinutukoy mo?
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BongV Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 6:24 am
sus na lang. ang importante masabtan. unsaon man nimong pagwapo gwap ug sulat apan tulibagbag ug bugok.,
Ma Xianding Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 7:09 am
At least di ako trying hard. Ikaw trying hard. Kapag ako nagsulat hindi kasing pangit ng sulat mo halatang gusto mo maging makata pero pumapalpak naman.
abet Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 10:46 am
well thank you! for seeing that i am trying hard and for seeing that i am gustong maging makata, because im not even trying and i dont like to be makata. it means, it comes out naturally.
kita mo na, sabi pa ni Bong V, ang importante masabtan…so it does not matter kung pangit o maganda ang pagkakasulat.
ilda Reply:
April 27th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
@Abet
sabi mo:
Ang masasabi ko:
Wag ka malungkot dahil si Gordon mismo ang nagsabi na “What we need is a change in man.”
Kung hinde mo gets yun, sabi nya, kailangan magbago ang mga Pilipino. Kasama na ang kultura sa kailangang baguhin.
Anti-intellectual talaga ang mga Pinoy dahil puro kamote ang mga binoboto nila kagaya ni Noynoy.
Wag mo nang pintasan itong article na ito dahil totoo ang sinasabi nito.
Cheers!
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ChinoF Reply:
April 27th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Nais ko rin sagutin tutol mo…
Yun nga lang, kahit ganito mga magagandang asal, di nagresulta sa pag-angat ng bansa natin. Dahil sa ibang asal, tulad sa trabaho, pangit ang mga asal ng Filipino. Saka para sabihin na pinakamaganda kultura natin… mayabang naman sabihin ito. Mabuti tanggapin nalang natin na equal lang tayo sa kultura ng iba. Nagmumukhang kasi tayong racist o supremacist. Saka yung mataas na pagtingin sa babae… sa labas lang yan. Kung mataas ang pagtingin sa babae, bakit ang dami pa ring nightclub or bahay prosti sa kahit saan sa Pilipinas?
Alam ng mga botante na sugarol, lasenggo, babaero at panginoon ng krimen si Erap noon pa a. Kumakalat na ang mga kwento noon pa, kahit bago siya naging pulitiko. Kwento ito ng late lola ko, dahil yung hipag ni Erap, kilala niya. Mukhang di ka nakikining sa balita, o kahit kwentuhang carinderia man lang. Sa kahit konti ang ginamit ang buong bansa, ang naglagay sa kanila sa pusisyon ay ang mga taong bayan, kaya taong bayan pa rin ay may kasalanan.
Kung hindi gusto ng mga tao, bakit naman masmataas ang bilang ng boto kay Arroyo kaysa kay Erap? Si Erap ay may 10 million boto, si Arroyo ay 12 million boto noong 1998. Si Arroyo ay ang inilagay na Vice President, kaya siya talaga ang papalit nung tinanggal si Erap. Di na niya kailangan ng ibang paraan nun, tao na ang gumawa nun. Kaya wag silang magtaka kung bakit naging presidente si Arroyo.
Exaggeration for effect ang aking istilong ginamit dito, pero ang punto ay pangit ang kultura ng pagkalalaki dito. Kasi pinagyayabang natin na maka-Diyos tayo, pero ang utos ng Diyos na maging mabait ang maayos ang buhay, di ginagawa.
Saka kahit Kastila ang nagsabi sa atin na “go forth and multiply,” ang tagal nang wala na mga Kastila. Bakit sumusunod pa rin ang mga tao sa kanila? “Go forth and multiply,” kahit wala na ang Kastila ang nangyayari. Di na acquired ang culture na yan, na-internalize na eh, naging bahagi na talaga ng kultura natin.
Ako’y ginamit lamang ng maliit na haimbawa. Tama ka naman sa paggamit sa gobyerno sa OFW namin, parang ayaw nga ibalik ng gobyerno namin. Mukha nga lang complacent tayo sa istado natin na OFW country, kaya yung mga sinusuntentuhan ng mga OFW, nagiging tamad. Pero alam ko rin na may OFW na pamilyadong lalaki na naghahanap ng ibang babae, pati na rin ang OFW na babae na may asawa, pumapatol din sa ibang lalaki. Di naman bayani ang mga OFW, napilitan lang silang magtrabaho sa masmagandang lugar.
Onga, di lang Lopezes ang sinasabi ko, kundi lahat ng media. Kaso mga oligarko nga sinasabi ko, niloloko nila ang mga taong bayan. Saka yung pinapakita ng media, actor o actress lang ang sumisikat at nagiging kilala. Pero ang nagiging purpose ng buhay is maging sikat, at yung ang pangit na pinaparating ng kulturang ito, dahil sa media. Kaya walang kilalang scientist o doctor, masyado nga showbiz ang Pinoy eh. Sa GMRC naman, di tinuro na ang hangarin sa buhay ay dapat maging sikat. Kahit si Nora ay magaling na aktor, kailangan ba lahat ng tao maging katulad niya? At kahit magaling na aktor siya, nahuli naman siya dahil nag-droga siya. HIndi siya dapat tularan sa ganyan.
Kahit konti ang gumagawa nito, ang impresyon ng ibang makakakita ay karamihan ay ganito. Tulad ng impresyon na maputi ang karamihan ng Amerikano, pero sa katunayan iilan lang sila, masmarami pa ang mga minorities. Pareto principle na 80/20 din ang ina-apply dito. Ang 80 % ng Pinoy ay huhusgaan baso sa kilos ng 20 % na gumagawa ng kalokohan. Ganun talaga eh. Saka yung mga pangit ng ugali ng Pinoy, maingay at papansin, kaya itong mga ugali ang napapansin.
Saka kahit maliit na bagay, importante pa rin, kasi kung hindi mo mapagkakatiwalaan ang tao sa tao sa maliit na bagay, mas lalo na sa malaking bagay.
Alam ko, at mababa pa rin ang standards. Nagpapagawa kami ng bahay dito, ay kung di binabantay ang trabahador, talagang may risk na di maayos ang trabaho. Mali-mali ang kabit, mali-mali pagkalagay, tapos sasabihin “pwede na yan.” Kung maayos ang Pilipino, di magiging ganyan.
Sa dami kasi ng nagagalit sa tulad ni Carolla, nagmumukhang tanga ang Filipino. Lalo na dun sa Adam Carolla FB page. Ang mga violent reaction ay wala sa lugar. Pangit ang ugali talaga ng Filipno na masyadong sensitibo sa kritisismo, nakikita ko dito sa Pilipinas na walang dinudulot na maganda. Puro yabang at init ng ulo lang ang dulot. Sabi ko nga, kahit konti ang gumagawa nito, nadadamay ang ibang Filipino kasi talagang sa kilos ng konti huhusgaan ang karamihan.
Totoo naman na anti-intellectual ang gobyerno. Pero galing din ang gobyerno sa ordinaryong tao at inihalal ito ng ordinaryong tao. Kaya ang kasalanan ay naibabalik sa ordinaryong tao. Tama ang kwento ni presto na bago naging taga-gobyerno ang mga kurakot, naging ordinaryong tao din sila. Kaya ang katunayan, anti-intellectual ang ordinaryong tao.
Makatarungan pa rin ito, na “we” as Filipinos, dahil ganun talaga ang resulta ng desisyon ng karamihang Pilipino. Mahirap i-deny. Ang kabuuan ng mga Filipino ay responsable sa estado ng bansa ngayon.
Oi, Pareho tayong Filipino dito a. Kultura ko rin ito. At hindi ko gusto. Alam ko nagagalit ka, pero ang ibang kilala kong Filipino na sang-ayon sa akin. Pag-isipan mong mabuti. Masasabi mo na itong pag-iisip ko sa article ko ay ang resulta ng pagpalaki ng magulang ko at pagpatalino ng guro ko rin (di lang elementarya, kundi sa kolehiyo pa). At kahit di ka papayag, may karapatan akong magsalita ng ganito.
Bakit nakakalungkot? Ibig sabihin ayaw mo ng action man. Parang pro-Erap ka a.
Salamat sa komento mo, pero mahina ang mga argumento mo. Talagang may problema pa rin ang kultura natin sa Pilipinas.
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abet Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 7:34 am
una po, hindi ko sinabing pinakamaganda ang kultura ng PIlipinas…ang sinabi ko, “ang pilipinas ang isa sa may pinakamagandang kultura sa mundo” maaari mong balikan para siguraduhin. at sinabi ko ito dahil may binanggit kang hindi magandang kultura ng africa. ang mga prostitute ay bunga ng kahirapan. kung may opitons ang mga babae ito ng pagkakakitaan, sa tingin mo ba ay magpo-prostitute sila? at ang mga options ay dapat pinapalawig ng pamahalaan para sa mga mamamayan. sa tingin mo ba, ang prostitusyon ay kultura o problema ng pamahalaan?
your late lola is not a representative ng mga nakakaalam ng lahat ng tungkol kay Erap. ang alam ng mga tao kay Erap ay action star. and im talking about the tao sa bundok, sa probinsya, sa suburbs, sa mga liblib na bahagi ng luzon visayas at mindanao. hanggang saan ba ang nalalaman ng mga taong tinutukoy ko? hindi sapat. bakit? dahil hindi naman pinapaabot ng pamahalaan ang mga tamang impormasyon sa kanila.
and about mrs arroyo. tapos na ako sa issue na mas maraming boto siya bilang vice president sa boto kay Erap bilang presidente. pero hindi sila naglaban sa eleksyon. paano mo nagagawang magbintang sa kultura gayong hindi mo kabisado ang iyong kasaysayan. pinapababa si Gloria sa pwesto dahil pakiramdam ng mga tao, nandaya siya sa election na ang inalaban niya ay si FPJ. alam mo ba yung Hello Garci scandal? wala na si Erap sa time frame nun.
at tungkol nga sa go forth and multiply, oo malaki na ang populasyon ngayon. pero ano ba ang solusyon? hindi ba’t tungkulin ng gobyerno na tugunan ang pangangailangan ng populasyong ito para maging manageable? ngunit hindi pa rin ito natutugunan ng pamahalaan. hindi naman kultura ng china ang one child policy. isa itong akto ng pamahalaan nila. hindi ko sinasabing sundin natin ito. ang sinasabi ko lang, ang gobyerno ang gumagawa ng paraan para tugunan ang mga problema ng lipunan.
Ukol sa issue mo ng OFW, parang napanood mo ang pelikulang “anak” ni Vilma Santos. hindi ganun lahat ng OFW. baka impression mo lang ito sa isang pamilya. may kilala ka na ganito ang nangyari, at tungkol sa paghahanap ng ibang karelasyon ng mga OFW at nang mga naiwan nila sa bansa, ang weird na ikinakabit mo pa rin iyun sa issue ng kultura. talaga. kulturang pilipino rin iyon?
maaari nating sisihin ang tv sa mga bagay na pinakikita nito, ngunit tandaan natin na business ang tv. at kung saan ito kikita, doon ito pupunta. kung naging matapat ito, bonus na lang ng mga mamamayan. pero hindi pa ito titigil dito. alam mo bang may sariling istasyon ang pamahalaan, na maaari nilang gamitin para maka-inspire ng mga tao. ginagamit ba ito ng pamahalaan. ang sinasabi ko lang, may kakayanan ang pamahalaan na tapatan ang mga artista ng mga sikat na doktor, teacher, o kung anumang propesyon na gusto mo. para maging aspiration ito ng mga kabataan. pero walang pinapakitang ganito ang pamahalaan. paano kikilalanin ng kabataan ang mga taong ito, kung ang pamahalaan mismo ay hindi kumikilala sa kanila? hawak ng pamahalaan ang sahod ng mga guro, doktor at kung sinu-sino pang propesyunal na nasa public establishments, kung itataas ng pamahalaan ang sahod ng mga ito, magiging mayabang ang mga doktor na ito, ang mga gurong ito, at ang tinutukoy kong yabang ay pride. ito ang mag-iinspire sa mga kabataan na maging propesyunal at hindi naising maging artista.
Sinabi mong “Kahit konti ang gumagawa nito, ang impresyon ng ibang makakakita ay karamihan ay ganito.” ito ang mali mo. ang impresyon ay hindi kultura.
sinabi mong mahina ang mga argumento ko diba. analyze natin yan. sinabi ko “Nora Aunor is a very good actress, masama bang mangarap na maging katulad niya? Hindi ba totoong sining ang ipinakitang galing ni Nora Aunor? grabe namang pangmamaliit iyan sa isang industriya.
ang sagot mo “Sa GMRC naman, di tinuro na ang hangarin sa buhay ay dapat maging sikat. Kahit si Nora ay magaling na aktor, kailangan ba lahat ng tao maging katulad niya? At kahit magaling na aktor siya, nahuli naman siya dahil nag-droga siya. HIndi siya dapat tularan sa ganyan.”
ang issue ko ay ang pangagnarap na maging isang magaling na aktres, hindi sikat na celebrity. at hindi ba hangarin naman talaga ng lahat ng tao na maging magaling sa kanyang piniling sining? dahil ba nahuli siya sa droga, nabura na ang pagiging mahusay niyang aktor? hindi naman. maaaring adik siya, pero hindi ibig sabihin nun, hindi na siya magaling na artista. at ang point ko kasi, hindi mo tinuturing na sining ang pagiging aktres. actually, paligoy lang ito, pero ang sinabi mo kasi, hindi totoong sining ang pag-aartsita, sabi ko sining ito at binigay kong katibayan si Nora Aunor. tapos hindi mo naman sinagot. siguro nga mahina ang argumento ko, pero parang nawala naman yung argumento mo?
at naiiwan ka na naman sa impresyon mo sa ilang tao para husgahan ang buong kultura. yung mga mangagawa ninyo, binabantayan para tumaas ang standards ng pwede na iyan. pero sa amin kasi, kapag sinabing pwede na iyan, ibig sabihin, pwede nang iyang itapat sa kahit saan. at alam mo ba ang etymology ng “bahala na.” alamin mo para ma-appreciate mo ang kulturang ito.
oo sige, puntahan natin yang anti intellectual ang ordinaryong tao. do you consider yourself as an ordinaryong tao? because if you do, then you your self is anti intellectual, then walang sense itong buong sinulat mo. and if you consider yourself as more than ordinary, then you are a supremist, na tinututulan mo rin. then that leaves you to be a less than ordinary…and that’s fine with me kung tatanggapin mong less ordinary ka.
Paano mo sinasabing “Ang kabuuan ng mga Filipino ay responsable sa estado ng bansa ngayon,” kung ang tinutukoy mo lang na mga example ay ang lola mo, o ang narinig mo sa carinderia, ang mga manggagawa sa bahay ninyo. ang liit ng sample mo. go out, kilalanin mo ang kabuuan ng mga Filipino.” bago mo sila husgahan. dahil kung husgahan lang. i dont think you are a pure pinoy. and you hate that part of you which is Pinoy.
at hindi kita pinipigilang magsalita. wala tayong karapatang gawin iyuns a isa’t-isa. ang hindi ko papayagan ay yurakan mo ang kultura ko. dahil tutulan kita. dahil judgmental ka, kulang naman ang research mo. tumututol ka sa sinabi ko, hindi mo naman nagets ang thesis statement ko. hindi mo nga sinagot eh
ito lang naman ang gusto kong sabihin, “pinapanatili ng pamahalaan na kulang sa edukasyon ang mga pilipino. na mahirap sila. na nasisilaw sa kunting ibibigay. bakit? dahil mas kapaki-pakinabang ang mga pilipino para sa mga nasa gobyerno kung sila ay nasa ganitong sitwasyon.” hindi mo naman sinagot.
kung gusto mong pagbintangan ang kultura bilang sanhi ng kahirapan kailangang tumingin ka ng mas malalim sa mga bagay-bagay at mapapansin mo, ang kultura ang nagiging paraan ng mga tao para maka-cope sa kahirapan. kahirapang dapat tinutugunan ng pamahalaan.
pahabol lang,
para doon sa nag react ng sinbuano, patawad, hindi kita naintidihan. hindi naman tinuro sa paaralan namin ang language na ito. na dapat ay isinama ng gobyerno sa kurikulum ng mga mag-aaaral.
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ChinoF Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Kahit sabihin na “isa sa pinakamaganda,” mayabang pa rin ang dating. Di dapat tayo magalit kung may nag-disagree dito. Subjective lang naman ito.
Sa akin, di ko naman sinasabi na di dapat baguhin ang gobyerno. Pero ang punto ko ay nagsisimula ang pagayos sa gobyerno sa pag-ayos ng kultura, at ang kultura natin ay ang simula ng gobyerno natin. Kaya sa kultura pa rin ang batikos.
Saka kahit kultura ay coping para sa kahirapan, nagiging excuse ito para di baguhin ang mali. Kailangan pa ring sitahin at baguhin ang mga mali sa kultura natin.
Nabisita ko na blog mo, nakita ko na stand mo kay Erap.
SIge, yan nalang muna at salamat uli sa pag-komento mo.
abet Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 11:38 am
hehe! sure! thanks din! nice conversing!
point of view ko na nasa london..
walang panget sarili kong kultura.. “kulturang pinoy”
ang nag papanget lang eh yung mga taong mababaw mag isip.. isa na kayo dun.. tsk tsk..
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bokyo Reply:
April 27th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Another example of emo-driven “Pilipino”
Dong nasa london ka pa man din. Isip ka muna.
Bago i-acknowledge ang kagandahan ng ating “kultura”, i-acknowledge mo muna ang mali sa ating kultura.
Kung hindi natin tatanggapin ang pagkakamali ng ating kulutra at gumawa ng paraan para baguhin ito, aabot pa tayo ng ilang siglo bago pa umasenso ang Pilipinas
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jenky Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 4:14 am
maganda ang sinabi mo dito…
“Bago i-acknowledge ang kagandahan ng ating “kultura”, i-acknowledge mo muna ang mali sa ating kultura.
Kung hindi natin tatanggapin ang pagkakamali ng ating kulutra at gumawa ng paraan para baguhin ito, aabot pa tayo ng ilang siglo bago pa umasenso ang Pilipinas”
pwede din ” i-aknowledge DIN natin ang mali sa ating kultura” kase di rin naman maganda na puro pangit ang una nating nakikita…
sayang lang at di ko maintindihan ung cebuano na nakasulat pero parts of it i understood… feeling ko maganda sinabi nya
ang masasabi ko lang, parehong tama ang mga punto ng author ng article at ni abet.
ang bottom line wag tayong maging mayabang at sabihing gobyerno lang ang may mali kase sa lipunan din nangaling ang mga nasa gobyerno. they do all those evil stuff because they know they can get away with it. walang masama sa pagiging proud to be pinoy, i know i am. but i know that we (our culture and our nation) are not perfect at kung magbubulag bulagan tayo sa mga imperfections na yan eh di walang mangyayari sa atin. totoong marami tayong mga kinalakihang kultura na di maganda, at kung makukuntento tayo na ung mga kultura na iyon ang mag define sa atin eh wala talga… mag kaiba kase ang examples nyong dalawa, and i believe na hindi naman binalewala ng author ang mga good traits ng pinoy, he just highlighted the bad ones para marealize natin na ung mga bagay na iyon ang humihigit sa atin pababa. meron akong nabasa somewhere na parang akma sa topic… parang “if you want to get the same result, then keep doing what you are doing” parang something like that, nakalimutan ko na… pero simple lang yan kung gusto natin ng ganitong sitwasyon eh di sige mag patuloy lang tayo sa ginagawa natin/sa kawalan natin ng aksyo… otherwise, we have to change something in our procedure so that we can see changes in the result…. diba? it applies to everything, math, chem, bio and even society…
maswerte tayo dahil despite of being raised in this society, we have managed to get the right things out of it. i’m sure kaya naoffend si abet kase alam nyang hindi sya ganun(bad traits sa article) at di siguro sya lumaki sa ganung environment. pero ilan lang tayo na nagawang maging matino despite of all the wrong things we see around us? ang iba walang ganung pagkakataon. and i think ito ay dahil sa influence ng magagandang schools at ng mabubuting magulang… pero tell me kung ang isang bata eh puro wowowee ang pinapanood or mga telenobela halimbawa… hindi ba later on magiging mas inferior sya kesa sa isang bata na nanonood ng mga national geo, or kahit simpleng disney channel lang. kahit pa siguro mas mataas ang IQ nung nanonood ng wowowee eh bale wala dahil sa “culture” o nature ng pinapanood nila, ganun din tayo… kung tatanggapin natin na parte na natin ang cultura pati ung mga maling cultura at hindi tayo nag ttry na magbago eh di wala na talaga tayong chance na umangat pa…
sa tingin ko ang purpose ng article na ito ay para gisingin ang mga pinoy… na kung tinatamaan ka sa mga sinasabi ng article na ito aba! eh di dapat kumilos ka na at mag bago… kung hindi ka naman tinatamaan, eh good for you, meaning lumaki ka ng may matinong pagkatao… hindi ito insulto sa mga pinoy… tahat naman ng klase ng kultura may good or bad, but what we do about it is what makes the difference.
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ChinoF Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 4:29 am
Thank you, Jenky. Yes, walang kultura na walang mali. Pero walang silbi din na palagpasin ang mga mali.
usi Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
nyek! pano kaya tayo aasenso kung di natin aalamin kung anong mali sa atin? ilang dekada na nakalipas..ilang gobyerno na ang nagdaan..clearly, something’s VERY wrong w/ the Filipino as a nation..as a people..at kung di natin itatanong, ‘bakit ganon?’, talaga namang napakalaki ng problema natin..
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abet Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Tampalasan kang lapastangan ka! Para kang hindi nag GMRC.
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BongV Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
ang lagay e – tama ba ang nakalagay sa GMRC textbook?
GMRC nga ang title – pero content-wise basura
bokyo Reply:
May 4th, 2010 at 4:41 am
madami nga nagi-GMRC, isinasagawa ba?
tsk tsk..isa na yan sa nagpapanget ng kultura naten..yung mga katulad nyo mag isip..
babaw ra ayu imong gipangsulti kang abet.. huna huna sa para di ma obvious unsa kagamay imong utok..
im proud to be pinoy.. very well said abet..
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BongV Reply:
April 27th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
naa pay usa nagpatuo-tuo.
na hala padayon pagboto sa mga kawatan.
mao nay gidangat sa imong katonto. mabaw nga tubag alang sa mabaw nga huna-huna.
unsa may makadaut kung mapanatin-aw ang pagkadunot sa nanagharing panghuna-huna.
busa hangtud karon, tungod kay gobierno ray saligan, imbes nga maniguro sa kaugalingon nga mubotar ug tawong tarong – barogan man hinuon ang mga kwanggol. mao na ni ron. ug di gusto nga kawatan ta sa gobyerno, dili ta angay mangbotar ug kawatan. ug nakawatan ta, tungod na kay wa ta nagtuki ug sakto – gibotar hinuon nato imbes nga mangita ug lain. namatay na lang tawon si raul roco – ang pilipinas way latoy ra gihapon.
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abet Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 6:24 am
thanks! im proud that you are proud to be pinoy.
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Ma Xianding Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 7:15 am
What makes you proud to be Pinoy? Are you one of those with empty pride who are proud for the sake of being proud? Even if there is nothing to substantiate such pride?
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ChinoF Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Let’s be proud of the right things in being Pinoy… we can’t be proud of being part of one of the countries most known for corruption in the world, and part of a culture which is pikon and can’t take a joke from Adam Carolla. We can be proud that despite being Pinoy, we can produce international comic book artists, scientists and even female f-16 pilots. Manny Pacquiao succeeded not because he was Filipino, but despite being Filipino.
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Excellent article, for sure. Philippine culture is distinctive, and Filipinos are right to be proud of the distinction from other Asian cultures and from that bastion of decadence, America. It is where culture meets function that things have to change. I’ll call that society. Some of the steps you suggest are good, like, use common sense. But I think the solutions have to start with the government and also the way the that government works for the people. There has to be a legal way to redress damages, like the pagoda collapse.
The current court system is jammed up with a backlog of 300,000 cases. The budget for Judiciary is a paltry P10B per year. Fees prevent the poor from accessing the courts. You have to have an attorney; another block. So there are three blocks to justice: backlog, fees, and process. When the people have a voice in law, then responsible members of the irresponsible culture can start litigating those fundamental cases that define society’s rules . . . not culture . . . and end things like unsafe structures, overcrowded ferries, noise pollution, smoke pollution, and all the other ways Filipino culture damages its own . . .
Let the fiestas continue . . .
Just my view, outside looking in . . .
Joe
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ChinoF Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 4:22 am
The outside view is always welcome. I only wish more of my countrymen were open to it.
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abet Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 6:28 am
ei mr joe america, i think you hit the point in your comment. Chinof seemed to be having a hard time distinguishing culture from society’s rule!
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ChinoF Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Ahem… I’m of the view that society’s rules and culture are very much connected despite being distinguished. But there are others, even sociologists, who will say that they are very much the same. I would say that society’s rules are very much a part of culture. If society’s rules say that a guy who doesn’t the same way as his friends should be kicked out of that barkada, that’s part of the culture of the barkada.
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Ma Xianding Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 7:14 am
You did not even understand Joe America’s comment. Try reading his blog to see what he thinks about Philippine culture.
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abet Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 11:10 am
fallacy. you say society’s rule is part of the culture. but it doesnt make culture equivalent to society’s rule. let’s say my arm is a part of the body, but it doesnt mean that my body is just my arm. parang coke. all cokes are soft drinks, but not all soft drinks are coke.
ChinoF Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 11:42 am
I’m afraid you’re stuck arguing on your own perception of differentiating between society’s rule and culture just to support your point that culture, or the people, is not to blame for the country’s problems. But that is a distraction from the main point. Whether it’s society’s rule or culture, they are still together as part of the people’s actions that affect our country. The people still share the blame for our country’s state. Di puede maghugas ang kamay ang tao dito, sila nagboto ng mga lider na di karapat-dapat sa pusisyon, at sila rin ay may mga ugaling nakakabagsak sa ngalan ng ating bansa. Well, you have your opinion, and I have mine, but I believe that reality is more in support of the point that the people have responsibility. You don’t have to research, nao-obserbahan lang ito kahit saan. So it’s not just the government that needs reform. Even the people and culture need reform.
abet Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
first point again. alam naman natin ang dayaan sa eleksyon, ibig sabihin, yung mga nananalo ay nandaya para makuha ang posisyon. ibig sabihin, hindi totoo ang election. isa lang itong palabas, kunwari’y binibigyan ng boses ang mga tao, pero dinadaya naman sila.
pangalawa. kung tao ang sisisihin natin, okay lang din yun. pero bakit natin sila sisisihin? dahil sa malakas sila magsalita kung may kausap sa telepono? hindi. may mga tao nang kumikilos para baguhin ang pamahalaan. sige, ibibigay ko sa iyo si Gordon. gusto niyang magkaroon ng pagbabago. hindi siya nag-iisa. maraming indibidwal at grupo na kumikilos sa pagbabago, sa kaunlaran. pero hindi sapat ang dami at lakas ng mga ito, dahil ang karamihan ay nagawang reluctant for change na ng pamahalaan. ipinamukha na ng gobyerno sa mga pilipino na kahit kumilos kayo, wala kayong pupuntahan. kahit lumaban kayo, matatalo kayo. I kno Gordon would be a good president, pero hindi siya mananalo. una, maaari siya dayain. well, i might be wrong, pero malamang sa hindi, matatalo si Gordon.
hindi ko inaalisan ng responsibilidad ang mga tao sa pag-unlad ng bansa. mas nagugustuhan ko ngayon ang idea mo na naka focus ka na sa tao at hindi na sa kultura. totoo namang ang mga filipino ang bumubuo at sumisira sa Pilipinas. pero sino ba ang nagpapakilos sa mga Pilipinong ito, o ang mas mabuting tanong, sino ang hindi nagpapakilos sa mga Pilipinong ito. ang kultura ba? sa palagay ko hindi. ang pamahalaan.
sorry kung naoffend kita ha. tama ka namang hindi naman kailangan ng research, observation okay na. pero alam mo bang ang observation ay maaaring part ng research. so pwede mong palalimin pa ang pag observe. hindi sapat na tingnan mo ang babaeng may kausap sa telepono na malakas magsalita at mairita ka sa kanya. kailangan malaman mo kung bakit kaya siya ganoon kalakas magsalita? marahil, ganun siya magsalita dahil sa palagay niya ay mas may kapangyarihan siya over other people kaya nilalakasan niya ang boses niya. isa lang ito sa mga maaari. marami pang posibilidad. iyun lang.
ChinoF Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Abet, ang naiintindihan ko is nao-offend ka sa pagbintang ko sa culture ng Pilipinas. For you, culture is something to be loved and upheld, at hindi dito ang mali. In other words, culture is sacred. Ngunit, sa nakikita ko, ang ugali at kilos ng tao ay ang nagiging culture ng tao. Kung ang culture sa iyo ay ang pagsuot ng barong o baro’t-saya, ang pag-mamano at ang jeepney, eh maliit na bahagi lamang yan. Ang tawag ko mga yan ay palamuti ng culture. Pero ang kilos at isip ng tao ay ang tunay na kultura. So ang focus sa tao ay focus din na kultura. Ang nakikita ko kasi is yung masasamang ugali ay nagiging kultura natin – na hindi dapat, diba? Kaya kasama pa rin ang kultura kung kailangang isumbat sa tao ang mga bad traits. Maganda ang resulta na ang tunay na magandang ugali ay nagiging kultura, diba? Ngunit sa nakikita ko, this is not happening, kaya ganito ang sabi ko sa article.
Salamat naman sa pagkaintindi mo sa huli. Ang mensahe ko dito ay mabigat, pero minsan, dahil sa katigasan ng ulo ng tao, kailangan ng napakalakas na palo para gisingin.
Sige, salamat nalang uli, maraming magbe-benefit sa diskusyon natin.
abet Reply:
April 29th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
actually, offensive kasi sa filipino race ang pagbibintang sa kultura nila bilang culprit for their decadence. and as a part of that race, or bilang filipino, nakaka-offend na pinagbibintangan mo rin ako. bahagi ako ng kulturang pilipino. bahagi ka ng kulturang pilipino, unless you are separating yourself from us.
totoong ang ugali at kilo sn tao ang nagiging kultura nila. ang pagmamano, tama, sige, palamuti siya, pero ano ba ang kulturang pinamamalamutian nito? ang paggalang sa magulang. ang respeto sa nakatatanda. mga attitudes shared ng mga Filipinos. part ng values ng mga Filipino.
kung nagiging masama ang ugali mo (ikaw ang nag claim nito ha, hindi kita pinagbibintangan…”Ang nakikita ko kasi is yung masasamang ugali ay nagiging kultura natin.”) or nang mga taong kilala mo, then, nagiging part ito ng kultura ninyo, pero hindi ng buong Pilipinas. Kasi, sa palagayko, marami pa ring mabubuting tao na hindi papayag na sabihin mong kultura nila ang kasamaan ng ugali.
dito pa lang sa mga nagrereply sa iyo, may masasama nang ugali. may mga nagpapakita ng kamangmangan, tulad ng pagmumura, pagle-label sa mga tao sa isang diskusyon, dahil lang wala silang maisip na tamang argumento. “Yang Abet na yan tanga at bobo talaga. Walang alam. Mayabang pa. Nambobola pa.” pinangalanan niya ang sarili na nothing to be proud of as pinoy, but i see that as nothing to be proud of as a person. may gumaya pa sa pangalan ko at sinabing “Hindi lahat ng softdrinks ay diet coke. Therefore, ang tuba ay dapat may decaffeinated version din. ANG GALING GALING KO! Dapat ay magsulat ako ng libro katulad ni Bob Ong.” at “Parang awa niyo na, basahin niyo ang blog ko. Walang nagbabasa nito. Hu hu hu hu huuuuu….” na pinalalabas ay ako ang nagsulat. sa tingin ko kasamaan ng ugali iyun. sa existence nila, tama kang mayroon talagang mga tao na masasama ang ugali. but do these persons represent you or your culture as a filipino? they definitely do not represnt me or my culture.
tama ka na ang kilos at ugali ng tao ang kultura. to be specific, ang kilos at ugali ng lahat ng lahat ng Filipino ang bumubuo sa kultura sa Pilipinas. pero focus tayo sa salitang lahat. hindi ng iilan lang. kung masasama ang ugali ng mga karpintero ninyo, marahil may masamang kultura ang grupo ng karpinterong iyun, pero hindi naman sila representative ng buong pilipinas yung dalawang taong tinukoy ko kanina, si nothing to be proud of… at si abet na fake. siguro bilang isang grupo, may masamang kultura sila, siguro, masama ang ugali nila, hindi sila nakapag-aral. kasya ang isang volume ng encyclopedia sa pagitan ng utak nila, pero hindi sila representative ng mga matatalinong Filipino.
marahil ay may mga taong matitigas na ang ulo. marahil, naging kultura na nila ito. i’ll site marikina as an example, pero nabago ang kulturang ito. napasunod ng gobyerno ni BF ang mga tiga marikina. ngayon. hindi na matigas ang ulo nila. disiplinado na sila. kung titingnan natin, ang gobyerno/pamahalaan ang nakapagpabago ng kultura ng mga tiga marikina. tamang i-congratulate ang mga tao dahil nagbago sila. naging disiplinado sila. pero hindi ba mas dapat purihin si BF, dahil mayroon siyang magaling na pamumuno bilang bahagi ng gobyerno.
ganun din ang kabaliktaran, kung hindi nagbago ang masasasamang ugali ng ibang lungsod, dapat sisihin ang kanilang pinuno, ang kanilang local government.
maaaring may mga grupo ng filipino na nagkakaroon na ng masamang kultura. pero hindi ibig sabihin nito, masama na ang kultura ng buong Pilipinas.
culture is an end product, sinabi mo na ito ang ugali at kilos ng mga tao. sige, granted, sasakyan ko yang idea mo na masama ang kulturang Filipino. pero bakit, ano ang ugat? dahil bumababa na ang literacy ng bansa. dahil sa kakulangan ng edukasyon. kikilos ba mag-isa ang kultura para baguhin ang sarili niya? hindi. kailangang mag-provide ng pamahalaan ng makalidad na karunungan sa kanyang mga mamamayan. at kung hindi ito magawa ng pamahalaan. kultura ba ang sisisihin?
BongV Reply:
April 29th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
i am filipino, too – and I am not offended by the comment because I know the context upon which the statement is made. as pointed in earlier (ancient) comment threads , if you were wearing a white shirt with a print on it – people will refer to you as the person in the white shirt. culture is merely an aggregation of individual behaviors. each of these indidivual behaviors have a common thread, and some threads are larger than others – say 93% versus 7% – thus the prevailing individual behaviors which are used to describe the entire poulation will be that of the prevailing culture – which as mentioned is the summa total of individual behaviors.
culture is defined as:
the mano thing actually highlights the superficiality of the “respect elders” of Filipinos – no different from a prosti who says “I love you” to all her johns. the intention is good – the actual practice/behavior aka culture IS NOT.
it may or may not be true – it depends on the specific behavior being described. in this case the specific behaviors that are practiced wideley were singled out.
that’s because this topic was already discussed in prior comment threads – so ika nga, beating a dead horse. so just when everyone thought it’s settled – and the process starts all over again – you have to explain all over again – for the nth time.
if the people of Marikina didn’t have the good sense to vote for BF in the first place, do you think BF will become mayor? YES? NO?
if the people of (name lungsod here) didn’t have the good sense to vote for (name of candidate with ability) in the first place, do you think (name of candidate with ability) will become (state position here)? YES? NO?
merong mabuti, ngunit MAS higit na nakakarami MASAMA – therefore MASAMA
people know they need education – why do they NOT vote for people who don’t support education – no one’s going to vote for their leaders but themselves. maybe we should outsource voting by Filipino voters to China.
if the mamayan of (name lungsod here) didn’t have the good sense to vote for (name of candidate with ability) in the first place, do you think (name of candidate with ability) will become (state position here)? YES? NO?
abet Reply:
April 29th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
i am filipino, too – and I am not offended by the comment because I know the context upon which the statement is made. as pointed in earlier (ancient) comment threads , if you were wearing a white shirt with a print on it – people will refer to you as the person in the white shirt. culture is merely an aggregation of individual behaviors. each of these indidivual behaviors have a common thread, and some threads are larger than others – say 93% versus 7% – thus the prevailing individual behaviors which are used to describe the entire poulation will be that of the prevailing culture – which as mentioned is the summa total of individual behaviors.
you said you know the context upon which the statement is made, then why provide a list of your definition of culture? if it is for me, then you are implying that i do not the culture i am talking of. if so, then why not tell that we are of different language game. that is easier than copy and paste some definition from the web.
culture you say is the prevalent ones. Filipinos keep their elders, their lolas and lolos, their parents in their houses. not in some home fr the aged. that is the prominent thing among filipinos, love of their family. i believe this is not practiced in the states. get a survey for crying loud, ask Filipinos if they love/respect their elders.
this is the first time i reacted on those masasamang ugali dito sa thread, which is several letters away from the nth time. ho did the settling? and how as it concluded?
you asked “if the people of Marikina didn’t have the good sense to vote for BF in the first place, do you think BF will become mayor? YES? NO?” hindi ko alam.
then you asked again ” if the people of (name lungsod here) didn’t have the good sense to vote for (name of candidate with ability) in the first place, do you think (name of candidate with ability) will become (state position here)? YES? NO?” hindi ko pa rin alam.
“merong mabuti, ngunit MAS higit na nakakarami MASAMA – therefore MASAMA” talaga? kung tinutukoy mong MAS MARAMING MASAMA ay iyun mas maraming hindi nakapag-aral, mas maraming hindi akakakain sa araw-araw, mas maraming naaapi sa sariling bayan. then, OO, maraming masama. pero kung iyun kalooban, yung mabuting asal sa tingin ko mas maraming mabuti. i still have faith in the Filipino people. MARAMING MABUTI NGUNIT MAS MAKAPANGYARIHAN ANG MASASAMA.
you then said “people know they need education – why do they NOT vote for people who don’t support education – no one’s going to vote for their leaders but themselves. maybe we should outsource voting by Filipino voters to China.” yeah, maybe we should outsource some voters from China, or India, or from the penguins. i dont think it would matter. why would you blame the people for making the wrong decision with their votes, when the truth is, their votes were not really counted. now i will site an nth time example. “hello garci” incident.
then lastly you asked “if the mamayan of (name lungsod here) didn’t have the good sense to vote for (name of candidate with ability) in the first place, do you think (name of candidate with ability) will become (state position here)? YES? NO?” and i still say i do not know.
actually, the government has developed a particular culture on its below poverty line citizens. the defeatist culture. the government made them hopeless. the middle class is slowly diminishing and a lot is going down with the lower classes. this is the only government inflicted culture that i blame for the current situation of the Philippines. it’s not “bahala na” it is “wala naman tayong magagawa…”
the government fear these people, and untill, these people learn to believe that they have the power to change their current situation. until these masses move and fight for the government that they really want, then change may eventually follow. a better culture may eventually start.
BongV Reply:
April 29th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
i paste the definition to ensure – you understand what am referring to when I speak about culture. if you have a different definition of culture – then obviously you’ll have different conclusion if you have different assumptins.
so what if Filipino keep their elders at home.
The americans value the individual privacy of their children inasmuch as they valued their privacy when they were not seniors. They save for retirement and do not want to be a BURDEN on their children – it has bot nothing to do with respect for elders – that’s where you are mistaken.
filipinos don’t have a monopoly on love of family. filipino elders wind up having to depend on their children because they don’t save for retirement!!! – and have lots of children who will pay for their retirement – STYLE BULOK
hindi mo alam – really? YES or NO – simpleng sagot.
people acted, behaved – cultural action to vote for Arroyo instead of Roco – e di yan ang napala nyo – BEH BUTI NGA!
hindi mo alam – really? YES or NO – simpleng sagot.
you know this guy Raul Roco? Why didn’t people vote for him instead of GMA? hindi mo alam – really? YES or NO – simpleng sagot.
hindi mo alam – really? YES or NO – simpleng sagot.
the lower classes now know the government is inflicting this – why do they keep voting for the same oligarch candidates? hindi mo alam – really? YES or NO – simpleng sagot.
fear who? what people? who are these “people” that government fears.
unti the masses move – o masses pa rin pala – individuals pa rin naman pala, e ba’t gobyerno pa rin pinagpipilit mo? hindi mo alam – really? YES or NO – simpleng sagot.
abet Reply:
April 29th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
sorry, hindi ko nabura yung first part, baka makalito. at sa mga typos, nagloloko ang “w” nitong laptap. hindi ko na naedit. hehe.
ChinoF Reply:
April 29th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Ganito lang yan… kung mao-offend ang Filipino sa pagbintang ko sa culture as a source of decadence, problema na nila yan. Mao-offend sila kung ma-offend… hindi ibig sabihin na-offend sila, it means tama sila. Yung mga taong mali, mao-offend naman sila kapag kino-korek. Parang criminal na nahuli. Di ba “maooffend” o magagalit ang kriminal dahil nahuli siya? Parang ganun.
Bato-bato sa langit, ang tamaan ay… guilty.
abet Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 1:45 am
i paste the definition to ensure – you understand what am referring to when I speak about culture. if you have a different definition of culture – then obviously you’ll have different conclusion if you have different assumptions. do we differ in our views of culture in the first place?
“The americans value the individual privacy of their children inasmuch as they valued their privacy when they were not seniors. They save for retirement and do not want to be a BURDEN on their children – it has bot nothing to do with respect for elders – that’s where you are mistaken.” of course it has, and that is where i am not mistaken. i think it is you who have no idea of who your fellow filipinos are. do you know that most filipinos do not save for their retirement for they do not retire working? ano bang mga trabaho ang may retiring age? may rretiring age ba ang mga magsasaka? ang mga mangingisda? ang mga tindera sa palengke? alam mo ba kung ilang percent sila ng population? ang iba sa kanila nananatili at nagta-trabaho pa rin hanggang sa sila ay mamatay. kaya nirerespeto sila ng kanilang mga anak.
kung masasagot mo ang lahat ng tanong tungkol sa resulta ng election, then ikaw na si Nostradamus. siguro wala ka sa Pilipinas kaya’t hindi mo nakikita kung paano nagaganap ang election sa bansa. ang eleksyon sa pilipinas ay labanan ng yaman at kapangyarihan, hindi na kakayanan at paninindigan.
Sigurado ka bang si Arroyo talaga ang nanalo sa laban niya kay Roco ayon sa tunay na boto ng mga tao? Susan Roces would object. and so with Eddie Villanueva. and so with a lot of Filipinos who believed that that election was a big fraud. siguro ang maniniwala lang na totoo ang election na iyon ay ikaw at si Garci.
“fear who? what people? who are these “people” that government fears.” you ask this? then you dont know your people. huwag ninyong pagbintangan ang mga taong hindi ninyo kilala.
“bato-bato sa langit, ang nambabato, bulag.”
BongV Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 6:17 am
at the length you’ve been running around in circles, YES.
you know why they work hanggang mamatay sila? because they have not saved up for retirement – if they don’t work they’ll starve. that’s not respect – that’s being pragmatic
simpleng tanong simpleng sagot – people elect politicians – YES? NO? hindi mo na naman alam?
The issue is not Arroyo’s fraud – the issue is given the electoral margins – people were voting for Arroyo or FPJ – - kasalanan ng gobyerno that people voted for Arroyo or FPJ? YES/NO? hindi mo na naman alam?
there are many meanings of people - huwag mong dinidefend ang mga taong hindi ninyo kilala.
ChinoF Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 4:35 am
Mas bulag ang tinamaan ng bato.
abet Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 11:53 am
bakit kayo nambabato ng bulag?
i know right, i’m running around in circles, and you’re running around with me.
ahahaha! nakakatawa naman yung konsepto mo na kailangan talaga nilang mag-save for retirement. alam mo bang ang savings sa kanila ay konsepto lang. have you any idea kung magkano ang minmum wage? alam mo ba kung magkano ang sweldo ng mga magsasaka sa Hacienda Luisita? saang kamay ng diyos nila hahanapin ang pang retirement savngs nila kung sa pang-araw-araw na pagkain pa lang ay hindi na sila magkandaugaga. kung tatanda ang mga ito na walang retirement savings, does that mean na masama silang tao, at hindni na nila inisip ang mga anak nila?
People do not elect politicians. politicians elect themselves here in the philippines. Most Filipinos believe that Gloria cheated on that election. nakaranas ka na ba ng election sa pilipinas lately? magulo at madumi ang election at kasalanan iyun ng gobyerno. sila ang nagpapalakaad ng election in the first place. a lot of affluent people are moving out of the country before election time. bakit? natatakot sa gulong magaganap.
kung nasa pilipinas ka. subukan mo lang lumabas ng bahay. kumustahin mo ang mga Pilipinong hindi mo kilala. para malaman mo ang kalagayan nila at kung saan sila nanggagaling. kung nasa ibang bansa ka, either working or tinakasan mo na ang Pilipinas, try to go back. kilalanin muna ninyo ang mga taong hinuhusgahan ninyong masama ang kultura.
i wouldn’t defend these people kung hindi ko sila kilala.
and clearly, you do not know these people, because you are requiring them to have retirement savings.
BongV Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
thats what happens when you keep a concept – a concept – and you don’t act on it – because you have other priorities – that you value more than savings.
then get an education that allows you to get more than minimum wage? do you have any idea what education is? even vocational education allows you to make more than minimum wage? what next is your excuse?
did I choose to be magsasaka? did I choose to vote for the politicians of Hacienda Luisita?
that’s because they did not use their coconut hard enough
may anak, di naman pinag-aral ginawa ring tenant – e di kandaugaga – pati yun gobyerno na naman? 
kung tatanda sila ibig sabihin hindi sila nagsave, di sila naghanap ng paraan upang magkaroon ng income ng makapagdulot ng savings – naging contento na sa “awa ng dyos” – e di pasang awa ang bagsak dahil mali ang gawa.
You mean Gloria Arroyo is able to write Gloria Arroyo one million times and all those votes will be counted? Whatcha smoking dude?
Gobyerno na naman. Why didn’t Filipinos come up with a suggestion to automate the elections, pass it to the Congressman or the Senator – then the Senate or Congress enacts it into law. Or, alternatively, elect people who have the capability of doing so? How can you make changes in government when you keep on electing the same idiots into authority? E di mas malaki kang idiot.
You can have them fired. You can have them impeached. But, you, the voter also voted for Congressmen who will not impeach the comelec – see what happens when you elect idiots? you become a bigger idiot because the government will make an idiot out of you – if only you didn’t make an idiotic choice in the first place.
lumabas ng bahay? syet – nakikinibang sila sa mga negosyo at ari-arian ko sa pilipinas – puhleeze. Ako pa ang nag-invest ako pa ang masama – pasalamat kayo binigyan kayo ng trabaho..
Kung gusto nyo ng mas malaking kita – magbukas kayo ng sarili nyong negosyo – at tingnan natin kung ano ang pamalakad nyo sa sweldo ng sarili nong tao
how would I know them if I knew they do not save in the first place?
abet Reply:
May 1st, 2010 at 12:01 am
BWAHAHAHAHA! now you lost it!
alam mo ang sinabi ni Ballsy, yung kapatid ni Noynoy, ukol sa mga magsasaka ng Hacienda Luisita? they were “pretty spoiled”
BWAHAHAHAHA!
ikaw naman “lumabas ng bahay? syet – nakikinibang sila sa mga negosyo at ari-arian ko sa pilipinas – puhleeze. Ako pa ang nag-invest ako pa ang masama – pasalamat kayo binigyan kayo ng trabaho..”
parang magkatunog kayo ng pananaw sa mga manggagawa.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
atsaka nga pala, huwag mo akong idamay sa magpapasalamat dahil binigyan mo ng tarbaho…i’m an investor myself.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHA!
ChinoF Reply:
May 1st, 2010 at 12:23 am
Maniwala ka pa kay Ballsy na yan. Sa publiko, sasabihin niya spoiled ang mga farmers, pero pag-umalis na ang mga camera, ilalabas na ang mga latigo at sisigawan na ang mga farmers. Yung P9 a day, di pa rin niya itataas kahit anong hirap ng farmers. Tapos ipapabaril noong 2004.
Mukhang bata ka pa Mr. Abet at binabasehan mo ang mga sinasabi mo dito sa iyong idealismo at limitadong kaalaman. Pag tumanda ka pa tulad ko, makikita mo na ang katotohanan, at makikita mo kung bakit mga tulad ko, ayaw kay Erap o kay Noynoy.
Yung sinabi mo, lumabas lang ang pagiging mabisyo ni Erap during his trial o nung naging presidente lang siya, e nagpapatunay na you have been living under a rock. Bago yan, marami nang may alam na lasinggero, sugarol, babaero at criminal si Erap. At yun pa ang binoto ng tao. So ang tingin ng ibang bansa sa atin, barbaro at paurong tayo kahit sa paghalal ng lider ng bansa.
abet Reply:
May 1st, 2010 at 1:09 am
salamat at kinabit mo sa aking kabataan ang aking idealism. pero kahit anong edad naman ang abutin ko, mukhang hindi naman magiging infinite ang knowledge ko. though ang limited kaalaman ko naman ay hindi confined sa google ang definition ko ng culture (hindi para sa iyo ito Chino).
please dont get me wrong. i think we precisely agree that ballsy’s quote as pure evil. derogatory to the magsasaka and manggagawa. and that noynoy is a power hungry balding mama’s boy who has proven nothing. no buts, no however.
pero alam mo ba ang kalagayan ng Pilipinas noong panahon ni Erap? so much better than now, pero let’s not go there. hindi pa ako decided kung boboto ko si Erap, alam mo naman yun. pero si Noynoy, definitely not!
BongV Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
joe:
look at the bright side – for all its faults – america’s decadence makes the whole world go round.
for instance – without america’s love for electronics and its consumerist tendencies – Asia’s electronics factories and automobile plants will be littered with carabao dung.
the jologs will not have any ipods, iphones, ipads so they can say they are “techies”
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I wonder whatever happened to the Moral Recovery Program which, if i remember right, was launched under the Ramos administration. It was a good attempt of the government to promote values reformation, starting with people in government. I don’t think the program was sustained, so the funds spent for the advocacy campaign and trainings are deemed wasted without any verifiable outcome.
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ChinoF Reply:
April 27th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Obviously, “culture” deemed that we don’t need any moral recovery, because it practice, we’re supposedly the “most moral country in SE Asia,” as the CBCP would claim.
Hmmm, I see that the flaw of the program was that it started with people in government. That’s where it failed. It should start with the ordinary people.
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J.B. Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 12:36 am
CBCP is likewise to blame for the culture. They favour population explosion over control without due regard that there are so many hungry mouths to feed already.
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sure! haha! thanks!
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Yang Abet na yan tanga at bobo talaga. Walang alam. Mayabang pa. Nambobola pa. Yan nag katarantaduhan ng Pinoy. Ayaw na nga aminin ang mali, gagawa pa ng mas maraming mali para i-coverup ang mali.
Gago talaga. Palpak na kultura talaga.
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Ma Xianding Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 11:09 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! TAMA!
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The two are not equated. The people who implement the rules of society are infected with the same dysfunctional culture as the members of that socciety. Matuto ka nga umintindi at hindi yung basta isusuka mo lang dito ang kung ano anong platitudes na pumasok sa utak mo. Usapan ng mga may utak to ‘tol. Wag ka na kung di ka rin lang gagamit.
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Shaddap Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Ang jologs naman ni Abet! Yuckidy-dak-dak!!!
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waitwat Reply:
April 28th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
He just lost his marbles. That sort of writing is what deteriorates the minds of the children today.
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Hindi lahat ng softdrinks ay diet coke. Therefore, ang tuba ay dapat may decaffeinated version din.
ANG GALING GALING KO! Dapat ay magsulat ako ng libro katulad ni Bob Ong.
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Parang awa niyo na, basahin niyo ang blog ko. Walang nagbabasa nito. Hu hu hu hu huuuuu….
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Hi, Chino.
Although I agree with your points, I’d like to ask you this question: Do you think there’s a way to channel this Pinoy “culture” into something productive?
Based on your examples, like the Pagoda and Nazarene traditions, it shows that Pinoys can be quite stubborn in doing things, even if it ends up harming them in the process. May pagkauto-uto, in a way.
If Pinoys are capable of dedication to foolishness, as you refer to it, can’t their energy, or part of it, be redirected into positive efforts/ endeavors for the country? I believe that Pinoys are capable of doing good things (sa susunod na lang ang great).
Think of this lang. Puwede naman siguro mauto ang Pinoy na gumawa ng tama, hanggang masanay sila na ginagawa ang tamang bagay. Maybe the Pinoys can be “conditioned” to do the right thing. Repeated action becomes behavior which ultimately becomes part of the culture. Excellence is consistently doing the right things right repeatedly.
Cheers!
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ChinoF Reply:
April 29th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Yes, I agree that it could be channeled. I think we just have a culture that keeps on repeating the bad behavior that makes people not see any other way, or see the good way as impractical. While I agree with Abet that the government should have an initiative in this, I know there have been programs fairly successful in introducing values changes. I know there’s a study in the US which said that the introduction of the behavior by a few, as long as it is advertised or made known to many, can lead to the behavior becoming common or even a fad. In fact, media can be seen as one effective influence in what it shows our people. Just as they propagate the lies about our government, they propagate the lies about culture. I think a media tool is needed to try this theory out.
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brianitus Reply:
April 29th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Yes. Government can be a powerful motivator and can be a strong foundation for implementing change. However, it is limited by the leadership behind it.
Media can take part in values formation through advertising and even actual programs they produce. If big media networks like ABS and GMA can get their stars to promote products or endorse a particular consumer behavior, they can also reinforce positive behavior. In a way, media can take part in mind conditioning. Why not start a fad that promotes good behavior?
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ChinoF Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 12:47 am
My point also is that government is not necessarily part of the problem, but it can be, and should be, part of the solution… and that’s that government is for anyway.
I think our culture tends to make people into followers rather than starters of fads. I.E. “sumunod ka nalang.” Yeah, it’s great if people themselves have the initiative to start their own good fads. Encouragement and education of the people are needed for it.
brianitus Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 1:06 am
Um, I think its okay to be a follower as long as you know why you are following and what you are following is right. However, if you are also pointing out that the Pinoy culture tends to produce “duwags,” I think you’re also right there. It’s hard to start a fad when you’re “duwag” or “mahina ang loob.”
Cheers, Chino!
ChinoF Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 2:46 am
I agree on that, Brianitus. There’s the challenge.
jenky Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 4:32 am
“Think of this lang. Puwede naman siguro mauto ang Pinoy na gumawa ng tama, hanggang masanay sila na ginagawa ang tamang bagay. Maybe the Pinoys can be “conditioned” to do the right thing. Repeated action becomes behavior which ultimately becomes part of the culture. Excellence is consistently doing the right things right repeatedly”
hahaha ang ganda nito… and it might just work!
i grew up in marikina.. lumaki ako na bawal mag tapon ng basura sa daan… lahat ng maliliit na basura nasa bulsa lang namin or sa bag kase walang trash cans sa classrooms… malalaking trashbins lang sa certain areas ng school. so hangang ngayon ganun pa rin ako… madaling i-condition ang tao… kaya kung na-condition tayo na sumunod sa mga maling tradisyon… i bet kayangkaya din nating i-instill ang mga mas may kabuluhang bagay.
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ChinoF Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 4:38 am
Yun nga eh, Marikina is a good example… kahit na-Ondoyan, babalik din yan sa kalinisan, dahil sa disiplina na enforced. Kaya ako Bayani for VP din.
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brianitus Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Hi, Jenky.
Sounded crazy enough ba? Hahaha. Blame the summer heat; it’s driving me nuts.
Well, if madaling utuiin ang mga Pinoy, then bakit walang umuuto sa kanila na gumawa ng tama? That was the basic premise nung sinabi ko.
Cheers!
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“i am filipino, too – and I am not offended by the comment because I know the context upon which the statement is made. as pointed in earlier (ancient) comment threads , if you were wearing a white shirt with a print on it – people will refer to you as the person in the white shirt. culture is merely an aggregation of individual behaviors. each of these indidivual behaviors have a common thread, and some threads are larger than others – say 93% versus 7% – thus the prevailing individual behaviors which are used to describe the entire poulation will be that of the prevailing culture – which as mentioned is the summa total of individual behaviors.”
i super agree with bongV… bakit ka ma ooffend kung iintindihin mong mabuti ung article? let us not let emotions blind us from seeing what is wrong with our society. hindi pwedeng ipagkaila na napakalaking influence ng culture sa ating mga pinoy, hence this is how we are… it was good to some pero hindi sa lahat.
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QUESTION!!!!
how do you get this Gordon thing below??? hahaha sorry to side track the discussion pero i really like it!
can i put this in my fb page? thanks a lot sa mag rereply.
cheers!
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ChinoF Reply:
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:58 pm
If you haven’t gotten the answer yet, look for an ukagaka, I think that’s what they call it. Ask BongV for more details.
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Isang malaking kahambugan ang mga binanggit mo rito. Sana’y maugat mo pa ng mas malalim ang mga sanhi ng binabanggit mong pagkawasak ng kultura at hindi isisi sa mga kaganapan 20 taon ang nakalipas. Sa iyong karagdagang pananaliksik nawa’y maliwanagan ka sa mga pinagsasabi mo. I recommend total revision.
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benign0 Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Simple lang pare. Sa dinami-dami na nang naging-presidente ng Pinas at sa dinami-dami na ng uri ng paraan ng pamumuno sa mga Pinoy, iisa lang ang umiral na bagay at bumukod sa lahat na ito: ang ugaling Pinoy.
Bagama’t mga intsik na di hamak na munting sekon klas sitisen lamang noong unang panahon ay umunlad smantalang ang mga neytib na Pinoy na ubod ng yabang ay lalong na-nood sa kahirapan. E bakit ganun, kesyo intsik o indyo ay pare-pareho lang naman tayong sunuran sa gobyerno? Isa lang ang talaga ang sanhi ng kabulukan nga Pinas: ang ugaling Pinoy.
Kultura = pangkalahatang ugali = Ugali nga bayan.
Simple lang talaga™.
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usi Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
to add to what benign0 said..here’s another write-up from Finance Manila:
“Why is the Philippines poor?”
http://financemanila.net/2009/05/why-is-the-philippines-poor/
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i’m going to post this on facebook. i’ve been looking for sensible articles like this one. my friends and I have been chatting on how us Filipinos usually act stupid. we get scolded by the elders because they always quote that we should respect the elderly. they are the law. even if we knew to ourselves that it doesn’t sound right. or perhaps, even not applicable to our time. antediluvian beliefs that should been long annihilated from our culture. I know we should respect the elderly. but then, there should also be limits. some people I know get into fights with their parents and relatives because they tend to vote a candidate that the older people do not like. they force them to vote this and that when in fact they should leave us alone with it. it was our vote after all. Sometimes my friends and I say:
“Kung pipilitin din nila n iboto kung sino sino alam ko nmang walang kwenta, eh ba’t p nila ako pinag-aral?! Ba’t p nila ako hinayaang matutong mag-isip? Masyado daw ako idealistic eh pde naman iboto ung alam kong mananalo. Like duh?!”
Thank you for this article. Been looking for this kind of article.
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ChinoF Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Thanks for the praise. It’s sad that we have to keep discussing the bad side of being Filipino, because no matter how much time has passed, that bad side is still there. Yet I still place my hope on being able to wipe out this bad side, and finally come out with a Filipino identity that we can truly be proud of. Yes, sadly, our parents and elders can be part of backward thinking… so it’s really a challenge to stand up to them. Thanks as well for the re-sharing.
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Hi Chino,
You mentioned as a solution to cure the Filipino of their “evil” ways is to “develop the gall to question and object to our culture when they see the need to”. Obviously, that would be in the realm of education.
So how do we inculcate this gall? What can the government do, specifically, to develop this? And what should the government do if some people do not wish to question and object to the evil and stupid ways? And lastly, who determines which practices in our culture should be changed?
Thanks in advance for taking time to reply.
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ChinoF Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Uncle Pinoy,
The most immediate thing I can think of is within the family itself. Change the style of parenting, and what parents teach children. Among the middle class we already have parents teaching accurate stuff to children, and not teaching them things like “thunder and lightning is St. Peter bowling in the clouds,” or “galing ka sa pwit when you were born.” The family remains the most influential educational resource in our country.
In school, if only we could secularize values training and teach ethics from a secular perspective, instead of using the antiquated and Catholic-dominated concept of GMRC. That’s probably what government can do if they could shake off Catholic dominance.
Media is also influential. The quality of TV programs should be changed. Dramas and noontime mediocrity shows a la Wowowee should either be dropped or reduced, and stories with better lessons should be shown. The TV stations should give people what they should watch, not what they want to watch. With such TV stations in private hands, I’m now welcome to the idea of re-nationalizing all or much of mass media to do this.
And of course, government should address poverty, because lack of values for me is related to the incidence of poverty in the country. In Manila, moving all the squatters out is a controversial idea, but still needed, as they have the lowest values in the city and influence our politicians and even middle and rich class in contact with them. And of course, they’re squatting, so they have to go.
Just the best I could think of off the fly for now. Thanks.
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Uncle Pinoy Reply:
May 2nd, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Chino,
I know you mean well and believe me when I say I completely agree with what you in principle. But your (or our) ideas get into trouble in the implementation. For example:
On your proposal to drop or reduce Wowowee-type shows: how do you do that? Do you arrest the producers of these kinds of shows? What if the people want to see more of Willie Revillame and Wowowee?
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ChinoF Reply:
May 3rd, 2010 at 1:05 am
You and I are in search of workable solutions so the same, Uncle Pinoy. I agree that Wowowee-type media though is a challenge. I suppose a big part is the audience itself. If only we could change the mindset of the audience, and reduce the number of people who want to watch Wowowee, then we’ll reduce demand for the show. Reduce demand, then you can reduce supply.
Maybe we could have our own media, our own stations promoting better TV content. Introducing competition that could try to switch demand patterns. That’s been an idea floated among us bloggers here in AP, though that certainly would require money. And people to run it.
Singapore I think has policy governing the type of shows broadcast, which I believe can be seen as regulation. I know regulation is an ugly word in the Philippines thanks to the Marcos regime, but that’s still the way I see to control content on TV. Perhaps the MTRCB could be replaced with another organization or reorganized with the aid of laws that directly address media content. In the end, I guess government has much responsibility on what they do with media.
I would still like to see a lot more foreign media in our channels. I hate what they did here, keeping the main channel (ABS, GMA) nearly all-local, while devoting another channel (23, QTV) for foreign content. I think removing foreign content changed the way people watch TV, and helped dumb them down.
What I could think of for now. Thanks.
Uncle Pinoy Reply:
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Chino,
Thank you for your reply. No disrespect here, but you just said you (we) have no solutions. And you are correct that there are no easy (and lawful) solutions.
Please allow me to push the point a little further: What if people don’t like our television programming and they still continue watching Wowowee?
ChinoF Reply:
May 3rd, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Uncle Pinoy,
Yeah, for now, I can admit that there are no ready solutions. I’m just hoping that there will be based on the assumption that people’s views change over time. My own solution in my own life is that if there’s a part of culture I find reprehensible, I’ll just take it upon myself to disobey it and do what’s right.
If they don’t like the alternative media presented and still like Wowowee, well, have to concede again. All I could do there is boycott the program and the channel myself. If I owned the alternative TV station, I would try not to give up and just keep going until some positive response happens. Some light at the end of the tunnel is sure to come up.
Thanks.
abet Reply:
May 1st, 2010 at 12:47 am
Hi Chino,
pasingit ulit, since suggestion part naman ito. ibang usapin. and uncle pinoy, please dont mind my butting in.
Chino is precisely correct when he said that it should begin in the family. Marikina changed the values of its, which changed the community and then the city. how? by showing that its local government has a strong political will.
pero paano nila binago ang mga pamilya? they empowered the individual. kids were taught in the schools discipline. tama yung taga marikina kanina na nagsabi ng proyektong “munting basura, ibulsa mo na.” tinuro ito sa elementary. since naging values ng mga bata ang kalinisan, tumawid ito sa tahanan nila. tapos iyun, nagkaroon sila ng boses sa bahay na nagsasabi na rin sila sa mga magulang nila. kung natatandaan ko ng tama, it was ne of the first project of BF as a mayor.
dahil successful ang proyektong ito, naging credible ang pamamahala ni BF. kaya’t ng pinatanggal niya ang mga nakausling mga bahay sa sidewalk, ang mga tambak ng gamit na nakalagay sa mga lugar na panglahat ng tao. tumutol ang mga natamaan, pero sumunod sila. una dahil, tama si BF, may napatunayan siya, at he walk the talk.
dahil naging successful ang pamamalakad na ito, ang pagsisimula sa paaralan ng mga tamang asal, tamang kultura. nagpatayo pa nang napakaraming paaralan sa Marikina. hindi ko sigurado kung bawat baranggay na ngayon ay sariling publics elementary school o higit pa doon. dumami rin ang high school.
hindi ko lang sure kung tumaas din ang kalidad ng edukasyon. yung values oo, pero yung academics, hindi ko masukat pa. una dahil mga istraktura lang ang naipatayo ng local government, sa mga guro na nakasalalay ang kalidad ng turo, na national government na ang makakapag-ayos. hindi pa naman kasi naitataas ang sweldo ng mga guro para sa pang-international level.
Tama rin si Chino na alisin ang catholic base teachings, pero Chino, correction lang ng slight, hindi purely catholic teachings ang nasa GMRC, kasama sa GMRC kasi yugn nationalism, as far as i remember. alam ko, iba pa yung dumarating na nagtuturo ng katekismo e na galign talaga sa simbahan. itinuturo kasi sa GMRC<>
about media, tama ulit si Chino na malaki ang impluwensya ng media sa mga tao. unless tumaas ang taste ng mga viewers, television after all is business. kung ano ang mas mabenta yan ang binibigay nila. see at the soaps of GMA, very pangmahirap ang mga kwento.hindi tataas ang kalidad ng pinapalabas sa TV. mananatiling may wowowee which i totally despise. but re-nationalizing these media would be very haggard. suggest ko lang, ang channel four at thirteen ang magpalakas ng kanilang programming. alam ko ang channel four ay government owned, so pwede silang lumaban sa GMA at ABS. pangalawa, i'll point again to education. tataas ang taste ng mga viewers kung mabibigyan sila ng magandang edukasyon, kung mababago ang pananaw nilang ang pagtitiis ay magdadala sa kanila sa langit eventually.
and the squatter. kill them! joke. kailangan lang silang ibalik sa pinaggalingan nila. bakit ba nagkakaroon ng squatters, umaalis sila sa probinsya sa pag-aakalang nasa maynila ang solusyon sa kanilang kahirapan, to find out na hindi naman. dahil dito, ang mga squatters na ito, mapapansin nilang kailangan pala ang edukasyon para magkaroon ng magandang buhay kahit nasa maynila na. so they would end mahirap at gutom. paano sila makakapagprovide sa Pamilya nila. see at this point, may values pa rin ang mga squatters na ito. kasi magnanakaw sila para sa pamilya nila. twisted nga lang ang values. iba ring usapin ang drugs na dominant din sa mga ganitong lugar, pero alam kong sa lahat ng class ay may adik. paano matatanggal ang mga squatters other than killing them all? dapat ilagay ng gobyerno ang solusyon sa kahirapan sa mahihirap na lugar, huwag magsiksikan sa maynila. kailangang gumawa ng gobyerno ng business hub sa lahat ng lalawigan sa Pilipinas. i-empower ang mga mamamayan na maaari silang magtayo ng sarili nilang negosyo, bigyan sila ng pondo at suporta.
the government can control which values will be retained, changed, replaced and its replacement, but at the end, it is still the citizens who would choose. kung nagamapanan naman ng pamahalaan na gawing educated ang mga tao, ma-empower ang bawat mamamayan, sigruo naman, hindi na nakakatakot ang kulturang kalalabasan.
PS.
sensya na ulit sa pagsingit. hindi naman siguro ito rhetorical question, ano? because itcould sound as one.
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Balls and chunk are where it’s at. Ang pigiging magalang sa nakatatanda ay hindi po kultura ng sino mang bansa kundi gawain po ng mga taong may matinong pag-iisip. Pati hospitality, etc. etc the list goes on.
Baka kasi sa sobrang luma na ibang mga aral at kwento ng mga ninuno ay parang nagiging ito na ang nagiging basehan kung ano ang totoo at tama.
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Here’s another bad Pinoy habit I got from Jet Hernandez:
Here’s where Filipino culture fails in respect of other people. Although for us, it certainly can prove useful. LOL
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Chino,
Thank you for your honest answer. I agree that the most we can do is boycott Wowowee ourselves. We certainly can’t tell our neighbors to do so.
I hope you don’t mind if I ask just one more question. In your article, you wrote that our culture is actually anti-intellectual. You and I are in total agreement. But what do we do if the people, after explaining the benefits of intellectualism, still do not want to think?
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ChinoF Reply:
May 4th, 2010 at 3:51 am
Hmmm… if they don’t want to think, either we live down living beside them, or we head for the Hills… maybe Chino Hills, CA. LOL. Guess we have to risk living the life of Pilosopong Tacio in Noli Me Tangere – shunned or even stoned for being intellectual in a sea of cavemen.
Uncle Pinoy, I like your persistence with these questions. We need to ask these things after all.
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Homer Reply:
May 4th, 2010 at 4:51 am
Chino, interesting exchange there w/ you and UP….but just an afterthought:
Chino Hills, and any other part of San Bernardino County, has easy access to TFC. In other words, it’s not easy to escape the grim reality that is Wowowee, especially if you choose CA, and other parts of the U.S. with a large Pinoy population. Try Fargo, North Dakota.
On the other hand, being in Chino Hills isn’t too far from Arizona, where you can now be stopped for identification by suspecting law enforcers…..so Wowowee viewers beware, hehe. If a law enforcer from AZ were reading this, he might think, “Hey, this ought to increase my quota for catching Pinoy TNT’s!”.
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ChinoF Reply:
May 4th, 2010 at 5:39 am
Hmm, looks like I’ll have to aim farther then… Chino mountains or Chino desert… maybe planet Chino… nyahaha.
Hello Chino,
Great, we can all be neighbors at Chino Hills – haha.
But kidding aside, doesn’t it strike you that the problematic Filipino culture doesn’t have an apparent solution, or at least a legal one? Maybe Filipino culture is not THE problem, but a symptom to A problem.