AP Note: We found this gem through the AP comment threads. Daniel Joseph Castro aka “Juggling” Student (slash) Blogger” raises the SO-WHAT question.
So what? (from http://desenhofrito.blogspot.com/)
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Once again, the whole Republic of Pacquiao (este) Philippines rejoiced at the victory of their “hero” ( or very close to say, as the saviour of the nation from racists) Manny Pacquiao. Once again, I will hear that old adage that every Filipinos say every time Manny wins.
“I’m proud to be a Filipino !”
I always wonder why do we try to equate our nationality with Manny Pacquiao, while his victory is only just an individual effort, not a collective one. For me, I’m proud of him because of his sheer determination and discipline, he went to that fame state, but I will not try to associate my nationality becasuse it was his effort only. According to Anti-Pinoy’s latest blog post, for one to be proud of being a Filipino, we need to be progressive country through the cooperative effort of its people.
Manny Pacquiao: Not a product of a national sports program.
We need to remember one thing: Pacquiao’s training came from a non-Filipino. By that, we should thank Freddie Roach for making him who he is right now. And to associate ourselves with him is foolish thing to do. Discipline- Manny has it; our nation knows no law. Hard work- Manny has it;our nation is in a deep sea of mediocrity. Focus- Manny has it; our nation doesn’t know where to go, thanks to our president. Coaching- Manny has it; our nation didn’t listen when we educate them to vote intelligently and here’s our by-product:national shame. Training- Manny has it; our nation has it but it was only a loose cannon to them. Winning attitude- Manny has it; our nation has this attitude of being a loser and they are contented with it.
The sad thing is our national sports program is very weak. Our government doesn’t care about our athletes. Kaya nangungulelat tayo pagdating sa medalya, because some government officials pocket their money that is for them. I couldn’t blame other Pinoy athletes playing for other countries tapos kapag nababalitaan na nananalo sila, sasabihin niyong, “Proud to be Pinoy”? Mahiya naman kayo. Kaya naman nananalo sila ay dahil may suporta ang gobyerno nila sa sports. Dito sa atin, wala. Kaya wala kayong karapatang mang-angkin ng tagumpay ng iisang tao lang.
So What If Pacman Wins ?
If Pacman wins, would there any big changes in this nation? I guess no. We are living in a euphoria right now. Off to dreamland again as they say. When this fades, we go back to our mediocre state and we need another Pacman fight to be energized, like opium. One day, we realize that Pacman is just a human person. Someday he will go tired. His body will decrease. He couldn’t fight someday. Where are going to lean on to shield us from racist comments and to cover our own national dysfunction?
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AP: Light your fire, share your truth, we’ll be glad to pass it on.
We, Filipinos, also have to ask ourselves this: Are we, along with our dear Philippines, really in a hopeless state?
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Thanks for sharing this post.
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rafterman Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 11:49 am
You write very well! Keep doing so. Soon we will have more Pinoys thinking correctly and countering the ones being produced by Gel Santos Relos.
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Goes to show you we have nothing REAL to root for.
Its not our leaders nor ourselves. We have to depend on a guy in shorts.
http://cornholiogogs.multiply.com/journal/item/1058/Manny_Pacquaio_Speaks_Live_Without_A_Net_Audio_Blog
http://cornholiogogs.multiply.com/journal/item/1007/You_Mean_The_Sports_World_Does_Not_Revolve_Around_Manny_
http://cornholiogogs.multiply.com/journal/item/688/Why_Are_Our_Filipino_Newspapers_So_Dumb
http://cornholiogogs.multiply.com/journal/item/606/Decline_of_Boxing_
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what’s more disconcerting is what the media does.. their reporting overkill is the fodder that race fanatics thrive on. I was watching the news and pacquiao this, pacquiao that. eh ano ngayon? balita pa ba yun? same goes for the new casts of Glee with Filipino blood.
pinapalabas nila na dahil sa pinoy o may dugong pinoy ang mga taong it kaya sila naging magaling. parang super serum ang dugo natin ah. pa-analyse natin sa mga dalubhasa baka may previously undiscovered super gene sa DNA natin! wahahaha kalokohan..
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Maki_Alam Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Or better yet, get psychoanalysts or behavioral psychologists to study this Pinoy tendency. I’d really like to know why we are the way we are. Or have conclusive scientific/sociological studies been done already? If anyone is aware of this, kindly tell me where to find said studies. Thanks.
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Hyden Toro Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Delusion to the verge of Denial…that is where we are…Pacquiao’s victory Reinforce our Delusion of ourselves, that we are doing good. So, we Deny that our country is in mess…
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manzi Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
If Freud were still alive he’ll probably psychoanalyze us as a nation full of masturbating voyeuristic exhibitionists who will flaunt the goods in public every chance he gets but will have violent reactions if somebody comments about the goods. and has a massive identity complex hidden behind a somewhat fragile oedipus complex.
UP nn grad Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Oedipus-complex – massive – is super-Mama’s boy Presidente Noynoy. Didn’t even want to leave the old home, heh heh heh. Conclusion — malas every girlfriend since in Noynoy’s eyes none will measure up to Cory.
Have you ever asked yourself what have you done to the country? (aside doing trashtalks) it is better to proact rather than react you know.
There are better things to do than Betraying your own nation. To start with “anti-pinoy.com”. O_o
Just my two cents.
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innagadda54 Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Anti-pinoy is all about perspective. Taking a step back and seeing things a certain way. I think that if people have lousy perspective they are of less help to this country in terms of moving forward. If you think going with what’s popular like Erap, FPJ, Willie R, Richard Gomez and Manny is also what’s good for this country then one of us is wrong.
Since your perspective is different from mine and you view those who hold an opinion different to you as betraying a nation I have another question. Do other countries admire us or do they look at us from their rear view mirror??
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Maki_Alam Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Keeping a level head is not betraying your nation. Misplaced national pride, empty boasting and riding on the coattails of one man’s success are a far greater disservice to the country. Go ahead and cheer for Manny. Be proud of him. Heck, we all are. But this media overkill and Pinoy self-glorification has got to stop. It’s ridiculous and embarrassing. If Manny himself can remain humble in the face of all that he’s achieved, why can’t the rest of us do the same?
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ChinoF Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Before asking that question, why not start with what you yourself have done.
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manzi Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
ang kitid pala ng ulo mo brad.
We’re all Filipinos here and we all love this country as much as the next guy. We do have a problem with the Filipino way of thinking, which I’m sad to say is not thinking at all.
Well herded and happily being spoonfed controlled information and not questioning anything. Kasi pinoy tayo eh! tama ba yan? when you see somebody deliberately breaking the law but brush it off as “pinoy kasi eh” there’s something wrong with your way of thinking. It’s as if we are racially dis-positioned to be accepting incompetents and the rest of the world should just accept that we’re “pinoy kasi eh” attitude. pwede na yan! but the moment somebody comments ayun nagalit na. racist! racist! this is an attack on the filipino people!
it seems we got off easy by not being called racist bigots because we’re Filipinos ourselves but to be called traitors to the motherland?! Treasonous seditionists?! come on.. It’s because of the love for the motherland that this online community was created.
“Galit kami sa kapinoyan ng pinoy pero hindi kami galit sa pinoy dahil pinoy din kami”
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inb4 all of AP writers all write about pacquiao infa100
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So your point is… pacquiao’s win don’t mean **** because our national sports program sucks?
Parang naghahanap ka lang ng ipagngangawa e.
You bet on Margarito didn’t you? (
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(i can’t use the reply link in mobile ver. Why?)
@crash
You don’t get it do you?
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My recent thought about it… the noisier Filipinos are about their pride of Pacquiao, the more they reveal their inferiority complex… I mean, why else would you be so noisy about Pacquiao being Filipino if you, a Filipino, didn’t feel inferior about yourself and said “I’m Filipino like Pacquiao” in order to make up for this inferiority feeling. It’s even better if you didn’t say anything like that. Just say “Congratulations, Pacquiao,” that’s it. The inferiority complex won’t be revealed. It doesn’t mean the whole Philippines won grand prize or something… unless it won the grand prize for “failed inferiority complex cover up.”
Well, you guys know this already, I guess; I just said it in a different way. hehe
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rafterman Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 11:50 am
That’s correct ChinoF. The more Pinoys trumpet Pac Man’s win, the more it gets cheapened.
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Maki_Alam Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Sakto.
It’s kinda like the line “Speak softly and carry a big stick.” Only with Pinoys it’s the other way around. We compensate for our tiny stick by howling and bellowing.
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ChinoF Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
If you don’t want people to notice your pimples, don’t draw attention by saying, “I’m a proud Clearasil user.”
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Pacquiao for President 2016!!!!! Yehh-hhhey!!!!
Or maybe he’ll first go for Senator and have at least four bills turned into laws because I don’t see Pacquaio as a FISCALIZER.
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Thinking about where Pacquiao’s money comes from, then Pacquiao is more an OFW than he is a Pinoy-in-Pinas.
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On with our delusions, because of Pacquiao’s victory. It is only sports entertainment. Like a “sabong”; once your “manok” has won; the game is over. Back to the realities of living in a mess; like our country. Of course, Filipinos can accomplish. I had met a Filipino scholar, here in U.S. He got a good job now. His parent were just “tindera sa bangketa”. He managed to avail of scholarship at U.P. Won a good foreign scholarship, to a good university in the U.S. After graduation, a good U.S. corporation offered him a good position. He got a working visa, then, a green card; then, a U.S. citizenship. Heroism happens in small ways; but, we just never notice them. Or the cases, of Filipino OFWs, becoming slaves in foreign countries. Just to send their children and relatives to colleges. So that all in the family, may have better lives…These people have the level of Pacquiao, and they are not noticed…
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rafterman Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Do you happen to be talking about Renat0 Pacific0?
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http://word-doodling.blogspot.com/2010/11/anti-antipinoy.html
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Obvious troll is obvious. Deal with it.
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AlvinEternala Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
I am talking to Marco. BTW, I really love your site! Keep it up!
*Godai thumbs up*
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If only Sigmund Freud was alive, I think he will discovered that The Philippines is the “Nations of Slave”.
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“Yung iba naman na nagpupumilit maging socialite eh inggit lang dito kay Pacquiao. How could a poor uneducated Visaya from GenSan who speaks broken English possibly be richer and become more famous than them?”
“para lang siyang kamag-anak mo na sinuportahan mo sa isang contest…”
(From PeX)
Richer? More famous? ‘Parang kamaganak’? A winner?
Rational thinking people only consider pacquiao as an INDIVIDUAL boxer NOT on the basis of his nationality being pilipino.
Only suckers make a big deal about it. Get a grip PENOYS. Can just imagine the bandwagon hysteria on pac’s homecoming. Media, politicians and all the clowns will put pilipins in another carnival-circus mode.
Being PROUD is so shallow and puerile. Filipinos will only be respected when majority of its constituents are more disciplined, corruption minimised, political dynasty eradicated, discerning population votes for competent leaders, etc. Other nationality will only ridicule these penoys howling like tarzan in the wilderness of ignorance.
AP: Party is not yet over. The Homecoming of pac, soon to come…
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no wonder nanalo yung “free rider” na presidential candidate. Yung sumakay sa popularity ng magulang at kapatid.
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Bakit..hindi ninyo ba naramdamang “PROUD” kayo at may isang kababayan kayo na nanalo sa ibang lupain at pati hindi ninyo kalahi eh nasisiyahan at humahanga sa galing niya? So that means… naive at somewhat strange ang katwiran ninyo kung ganun! At dapat lang na may halong emosyon sa mga ganitong pangyayari…kung WALA manhid KA!Wala nga sa race yan..pero dahil sa Pinoy ka at Pinoy ang umaani ng tagumpay sa ngayon pagdating sa boxing bakit hindi natin mararamdaman ang pagmamalaki sa pamamagitan ng boxer na ito! Kung ang problema mo ay wala tayong maayos na programa para sa mga atletang Pinoy…kayo ang may sintimiento sa buhay at hindi kami! Why, not tell it to the higher ups para mapansin nila ang concern ninyo?..Ang issue lang naman dito eh proud at nasisiyahan ang mga kababayan natin sa pagkapanalo ng isang kababayan sa ibang lupain..period! Hindi ninyo nga nilalait ang pagkapanalo ni Pacquiao pero sinasabi mo na hindi natin dapat ipagbunyi dahil hindi natin kailangan. Baka kayo lang, kasi “sarado ang pananaw ninyo sa mga bagay na dapat ay malawak ka, kung totoong nagpapakalalim ka? Ito ang reyalidad ng buhay..live life to the fullest and make the most of it…to each its own..wag mo kaming sagkaan sa mga pagpapakalalim ninyong mga Ginoo..anyway this is a FREE country..kanya kanya ng gusto at opinion! So be it…masaya cla/kami wala kang pakelam!!!
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Kay Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
basically you didn’t get the point and your emotions are taking over overwhelming your rationality.
Why sending our concerns for the higher-ups when they themselves are the cause of the problems for our athletes with poor facilities and little funding? Why only to those who are concern like us need to do this? heh… I guess it must be sooo Pinoy to support only those who are successful and riding on their success while ignoring our filipino athletes asking for help
Yes this is a free country, it is so free that killing innocent people in broad daylight is considered normal, it’s free to acknowledge that the wealthy criminals can get away with anything either they are from politics or business magnates, it’s free to be ignorant, it’s free to be racist by declaring ‘we are the best in the world’ (does Nazi Philippines sounds good to you?) and it’s free ride in the success of others when it has nothing to do with you but you selfishly say that his/her success is also the filipino success (lolz wut?)
get real and **** the media for conditionally brainwashing you to an extent that is very distasteful. stay away from the retarded bandwagon too, they are like religious extremist with misguided intentions
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AlvinEternal Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Sorry, but the whole truth is:
“(False) Nationalism is the last resort of a scoundrel.” Just like you. Makes sense?
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Oh I get it alright.
I get it that even if the Philippines we’re to miraculously turn into a first world country and everyone in government turned into angels and everyone became filthy rich and gave each other gift baskets everyday these guys would still find something to crow about.
The guy who wrote that article was probably cheering for Pacquiao during the fight. And afterwards figured he’d try to be different by writing an article saying it don’t mean anything, because that would make him “cool”.
I’m happy Pacquiao won, he sacrificed a lot to get where he is. Whether he trained here or not I’m still happy for my countryman, and he’s still someone we can all learn from.
Unless you guys think you know everything already, then good for you.
Just because someone wrote an article in English and gave it a fancy layout doesn’t mean we gotta be suckers for it.
That’s like saying Transformers 2 is one of the greatest movies of all time because it had awesome 3D.
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benign0 Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Didn’t you get the memo? As a matter of fact, we do know everything.
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Spot on!!! I’m glad I am not in the Philippines to witness firstahand all that hullabaloo about a successful boxer. Imagine everything on a stop mode just to welcome though a successful individual, an overrated Filipino. Truly, he is becoming a curse to the Philippines, with his run in congress, I lost respect for this guy. The feel-good politics that is lulling everyone into non-thinking is disgusting. Only if the media will focus and get everyone involved in finding
olutions to the pressing problems in the country, the way they focus on every Pacquiao’s win, would I appreciate the media circus on Pacquiao. Boxing is not an honorable sport, for one, it is too violent and for every Pacquiao who earns millions, there are thousands poor aspirants who get maimed and incapaciated enriching the unscrupulous businessmen who manage these human fighting specimens. How disgusting!!! I am not entralled by boxing at all. It is a poor man’s sport, no one who has brains and potential to succeed in other endeavors would go into this sport. Pacquiao is encouraging the poor to sacrifice themselves and risk getting maimed all in the name of money!!!
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Real achievement: China supercomputer named world’s fastest!
The United States still dominates, with more than half of the entries in the Top 500 list, but China now boasts 42 systems in the rankings, putting it ahead of Japan, France, Germany and Britain.
It is not the first time that the United States has had its digital crown stolen by an Asian upstart. In 2002, Japan made a machine with more power than the top 20 American computers put together.
Quite simply, really, the greatest nations on the planet are known for their technology and not for their sport stars.
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luraaa Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Good for them.
I’ve always wanted to go to Japan or South Korea not because of the actors (but that’s one reason), but to visit their country and see what makes them different from ours. It makes me feel sad for the Philippines, that these two countries are known world-wide for their technology and inventions and yet our country is still larger than them in terms of land area (pati nga ba Japan? tamad mag-google eh. pasensya na.). And we’ve got 90 million people too.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Cantonese or Mandarin will be a standard in the school curriculum. With the U.S. of A.’s economic situation, it’s not likely that China will be better than the former. Pero wag naman totally sana. Most countries depend on the US eh. Asian countries like China, Japan and South Korea are threats to North America and Europe.
Oh, I know. If there’s one thing I’m proud of the Philippines, it’s the country itself. Beautiful beaches, lovely sunsets and sunrise, deep caves, exotic wildlife… but sadly, the leaders who are supposed to implement laws to preserve nature are useless. There goes the Monkey-eating eagle.
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I think that this article really depends a lot on who is saying “I’m proud to be Filipino because of Pacman”.
If those who say that phrase try to emulate Pacman’s discipline, hard work, focus and winning attitude, all the while accepting foreign coaching and training without calling them racists, I’m all for it. And I’m sure that Pacman has inspired several youths out there to do just that. Being proud of Pacquiao could mean that they are proud of Pacquiao’s determination to get where he is now despite his humble origins.
This article I believe is addressed to the freeloaders who try and hitch a ride on Pacquiao’s bandwagon to ignore their own shortcomings and shoot down any anti-pinoy critics, constructive and otherwise, which I mostly agree with.
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Sharafa Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Unfortunately, it’s more often a case of the latter than the former.
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Manny Pacquiao has won and earned his EIGHT WORLD Title
while Philippines still has the THIRD WORLD Title…
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