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wrote on 2 June, 2010, 13:38… daaaang
… flips are the bestestest hugas pfwets, unidoro specialists, etchastera, etc…
… flipland’s sexy gurlz aka fedex brides rule!!!!!
… flips/flipflams speak ferpekt country clubbed inles…
… yoooOOOoooooo… we are the bestestest…
… flips, puro kayo gung gong!
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wrote on 2 June, 2010, 13:38
… daaaang
… flips are the bestestest hugas pfwets, unidoro specialists, etchastera, etc…
… flipland’s sexy gurlz aka fedex brides rule!!!!!
… flips/flipflams speak ferpekt country clubbed inles…
… yoooOOOoooooo… we are the bestestest…
… flips, puro kayo gung gong!
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I gotta have more of what you’re having.
On second thought, you might be having the war pipe instead of the peace pipe.
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On the contrary, Hambog is massively beneficial”
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It sure is!
“Hambog, para mabugbog!”
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meron din na tinatawag na “Humbleg “, ang nagpapakahumble-kuno na hambog
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We all know a good example of that. hehehe
You know what I detest more than sub-intellectuals? Anti-intellectuals. To these fools, thinking is a sin, and they wish to keep the Filipino in the shackles of ignorance.
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Unfortunately for us, this is a country where intellectualism is not valued. But you can blame media – even foreign media, like movies – for hyping “dumb” heroes. Heroes these days are popular when dumb.
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It’s all about false pride, Chino.
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Exactly, Brianitus. You got it, false pride.
Then someone comes in saying, “it’s tralse pride.”
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Hardcore na gray area ha, Chino. Tralse pride.
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It’s part of da pinoys cultural irony.
He who’s culture a tail-ender have shown so much full of assumption being the best.
He who’s language is not English cringe at their compatriots having a hard time speaking the language properly.
—- you can add here as many as you want —–
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I think too many Filipinos consider loving something synonymous to being proud of something.
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Fact is, foreign countries who employ Filipino nurses have local manpower problems. It is NOT because Filipino nurses are the best in the world.
Who wants a “dirty job” (exposed to feces, urine, blood, microbes, etc.) when you can have a “cleaner one”? Who wants to work on holidays and weekends, and in time shifts that will result to relationship and family damages? Not so many in those well-developed countries.
Worst, many Filipinos study Nursing plainly because they want to go abroad. How can one be proud of his profession when he or she is forced to do it? Saddening.
Uplift our national well-being? Perhaps in my next life I can brag about how we did it.
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While hiring Filipino nurses is a sound economic choice, I don’t think “willing to work for less pay” is something we can be proud of.
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Pretty soon, the Greek dictionary will define Filipino as “doctor who became a nurse” instead of “domestic helper.”
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That’s one notch higher than DH
I agree with you 100%. they are also the first to put down thier own fellow filipinos
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Honestly, us Pinoys are good at lying, committing fraud, cheating, stealing, pirating.
We’re masters at doing shortcuts and dirty work.
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It’s unfortunate that some other Pinoys even find this something to boast about. Is it because there is nothing good about us to boast? But then again, why boast?
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In a hypocritical society such as the Philippines where intelligence is “EVIL”, that mediocre jobs are worth gold and the truth brings all sorts of bad reactions, I’ll have to say we have a long way to go for progress to be achieved.
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http://cornholiogogs.multiply.com/journal/item/1097/WHY_Because_We_Are_Dumb_
http://cornholiogogs.multiply.com/journal/item/1017/Hypocrisy_of_the_Recognition_and_Admiration_of_Efren_Penaflorida
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ChinoF is right. The association of others triumphs as one’s own is not really bad, however it is becoming the focal point of achievements for most Filipinos. The sad thing is that these achievements, albeit world-known and widely recognized, are fickle and shallow and do not contribute to the overall development of our country. Would Manny Pacquiao’s world titles increase our economic powers? Would it measure up to India’s Nano car, Korea’s MP3 players, or even our Asian counterpart’s Nobel Prize winners? I am not belittling Manny, Charisse or Arnel Pineda – I am just saddened that these are the only sources of pride that we as a country have in this day and age. I have read somewhere that the world is still waiting for the contribution of the Filipino – notwithstanding our continuous supply of labor to the world. We know we are worth more than what we are right now – we just need the right avenues to show it.
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Manny actually did the most amazing that we can be proud of.
What is it?
Napapaligiran siya ng mga “hambog” pero mukhang ang bait bait magsalita at makikisama
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This is because we are trained to be submissive, to follow and not to lead, to go along with the status quo instead of thinking outside the box, to be a loyal employee instead of an innovative entrepreneur. Sure, you can smother the world with Pinoy laborers but they will never make a true impact on the workplace unless they detach themselves and go against the grain, start their own companies, think of new products the world needs, new ways of doing things. Those are the things you get recognition for. I know it sounds trite but build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door.
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it’s a “freeloading” culture. pinoys tend to ride on the success of the kamag anaks… any kamag-anak who are successful will have the burden of feeding those who are “indigents”… just like the mentality of the president apparent (who is apparently abnormal)… free loads on the name of his father and mother…
… on the aggregate… any success of a fellow, tagalog, bicolano, ilocano, waray-waray, ilonggo, cebuano, dabawanyo… is his success… … a stupid mindset which on an individual level the p r i ck or the c u n t thinks that the successful wanker is indebted to him/her.
look at how the abnoyans behave… the a holes who’ve invaded times street for jobs and have demanded from abnoy jobs or employment…
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“Freeloading”…. libre me this, libre me that…
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Straight from the Hip piece there ChinoF. When I read it, I started thinking about triumphalists alike and how they play the race card, besides the victim card (I mean, if we ARE so GREAT, why are we playing victims yah?)
Besides, the way they play the race card is pretty passe nowadays. Almost reactionary to everything that is against Filipino. They use dated analogies of the white man being evil by enslaving the African americans and putting down the colored people (when odd enough, other ethnic groups have enslaved others beforehand). They completely miss the context of the relationship and establish racism based on something that puts them down, when odd enough the observation is downright VALID, if they get past the obvious hurtful remarks (which with their combined balat sibuyas that they PRIDE THEMSELVES WITH as I’ve read how others have interpreted it). Pretty much just a stereotype living itself out. And its part of the Fil-Ams who get the misconception and somehow educate their even more emotionally attached brethren back home that this is how it is.
Besides I learned that it is those who are racist that INSIST it is a race issue (and we all know there is no such thing as the Pinoy Race, or asian race for that matter) when there is no real evidence that suggests it otherwise. And many of these triumphalists would play that card when they are backed down and desperate against the truth that is rationality, even against their own brethren who know better. How many times have I read in pinoy youtube posts or facebook posts where a brave few come up with the truth and the mob retorts with Why are you being racist against your own people?.
You know, Richard Gordon believes the same way as you do. Its a proof positive message, more than empty promises to end poverty and corruption. Yet people don’t seem to get that from him and think that the other witless, personality ridden politicians and our president to be believe they are worth more.
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Thanks. You know, the Adam Carolla thing really showed the worst you can get from Pinoys. Especially the racism fallacies Pinoys can be so creative about.
Yeah, we need to make Filipinos aware that there’s so much potential and worth to manifest in the right avenues – and that certainly doesn’t include appearing on Wowowee.
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We need to appeal to more pinoys who want to be future public intellectuals, especially those overseas and brimming with potential. I talked to a guy on YT which almost started as a triumphalist spouting nonsense but he was being expressive in a way that pinoys certainly could be better. He wrote that he followed Nick Perlas closely throughout he elections. I steered him to some Dick Gordon vids and I hope he gets Gordon’s message about what he sees in Pinoys.
Public intellectuals are a thankless job, much like volunteering. But by doing it, you are far ahead than people unlike Noy volunteers who started looking into the change DURING campaigning and for the sake of the witless head of state.
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… daaang
… to compensate for the shortcomings, flips will stick to anything, worhy and/or worthless… and, toot their horns, for the rest of the flip gung gongs to adore…no matter how insignificant the the triumph is…
… ay sus ginoo, flips puro kay gung gongs!
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Can anyone confirm if Teddy Benigno Sr. was the one who coined that “tango” term I used? I thought I saw that around the Net. Thanks.
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If it was possible to agree with you 1000% I would.
Here is the problem. The unspoken attitude is “basta pinoy da best”. There is no objectivity and a sense of entitlement. It tends to blind people to the reality. Sense of entitlement rarely goes with work ethic, drive and detrmination. Noynoy and his yellow fever was classic case of self entitlement.
My previous observations on this purely pinoy phenomena
http://cornholiogogs.multiply.com/journal/item/339/Here_We_Go_Again_Filipinos_Moral_Beacons_of_the_World_
http://cornholiogogs.multiply.com/journal/item/619/Arnel_Pineda_Extrapolation
If I am good enough I would love to write for Anti Pinoy. Merit not self entitlement.
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@innagadda54, I agree about your extrapolation.
Except that the logic of lampooning A. Pineda talent into no more than 5% of elvis impersonator is non-objective.
A. Pineda wasn’t recruited of Journey because he’s gaya-gaya. He was recruited as per Neil that he possosses something the band can offer something “new” for the band. Jeremy Hunsicker was closer to Steve Perry and yet he was rejected. Wait the next album. It’s inclined of what Pineda has to offer.
Very few male singer can sing upper-range tenor while remaining the thick of voice–they call it pipes. I agree with one poster in melodick rock that he’s willing to die just to have Pineda’s voice.
Singers like Charice or Arnel actually did great on the country on the number of counts. Like for example, the dollars they bring in plus putting the Philippines on the world music scene. It can affect tourism too albeit on a minor scale. Not too great but good enough for now.
But then again, it was the “Proud to be Pinoy” because of them is what I originally agree. Its downright wrong.
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Well even AP could use a network of sites in similar theme to theirs that talks about the misconceptions of ‘social ills’ (whatever the hell that means). Way too many triumphalist blogs and forums that celebrate the pinoy indolence, as oppose to discuss openly about it. I plan to get a bunch of these resources together and make some form of a gateway site as well.
I honestly don’t have a problem with Charice’s baby steps to stardom or Arnel being handpicked by Journey. Its their rabid, deluded fans (most notably charice’s) who turn it into a ‘Pinoys are the best’ argument by default.
Regardless the pinoy nation has a long way to express their merit, and not boasting self entitlement. Especially when their neighboring countries can boast prowess in mainstream science and tech while the pinoy triumphalist may give you myths that people from our nation innovated stuff such as the yoyo and fluorescent light bulb.
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loved this from your blog
“We don’t celebrate intellectuals in this country, we reward, celebrate and elect imbeciles”
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Another thing I had forgotten to include in this article is how some of our leaders, especially religious leaders, think of Filipinos as morally superior. For example, Fr. Arellano in the video quoted in “Catholic Arguments on RH Bill” ) says the Philippines is a moral compass in the region. And I think there are Filipinos who claim we have better values than other countries, have more morality in our family values, friendship values, etc. Probably most of this comes from the Catholic sector. This false moral ascendancy is is yet another temporary relief for our dysfunctions.
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Sure, being a nurse is a “Dirty Job”, but to be honest, I believe that it is one of the most thankless and noblest jobs in the world.
And also one that is severely misunderstood. People who are not nurses tend to think this and that about our profession. You can’t say this and that about us who studied Nursing and finished it until you’ve actually been on the inside. So let me ask you, how much do you know about being a nurse? Not much I presume.
Yes, I agree that a lot of today’s BSN students are only in it for the money, and the chance to go abroad, and I also agree that it is not something to be proud of. But to generalize that all Filipino nurses are like that isn’t right don’t you think?
Honestly, not many people realize the truth behind being a nurse, not a Filipino nurse… But a nurse in general. Yes, it’s true, other countries lack nurses, our country has a surplus… Want to know why? Americans, or other countries for that matter, have a wide range of job opportunities in their country, where as in our own Philippines, good jobs are pretty hard to find.
Nursing is not just a”dirty job”, it’s a profession, you even said so yourself. A profession bound by history, theories, organizations, associations, and a code of ethics, to name a few. It is a service.
We were not just taught how to wipe some sick person’s ass for crying out loud.
It is not just all feces, blood, needles, and thermometers. It’s about promoting health and helping an individual attain a full functional well-being. It’s about being a member of the health team. A team of doctors, pharmacists, physical therapists, midwives dedicated to caring the individual, treating his illness, and rehabilitating him.
Who was the one who taught the world that environmental manipulation was substantial in helping an individuals healing and well-being? Florence Nightingale, a nurse, the lady with the lamp.
I never said you were wrong about those things you said, because I agree with most of it. But I just came in to give you a clearer picture into what Nursing really is.
Nursing really is one of the most misunderstood professions in the world, not job, profession.
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Do you think that among those who misunderstand the nursing profession are some nurses themselves? Namely the ones who boast? I myself don’t mean that nurses should be put down. But the dignity of the profession should be upheld in the right way.
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@Angelo
No. The nursing industry in America was ignored and its numbers decreased due to lack of attention. So with the Bush administration for the most part and a decent economy, he solved the problem through outsourcing. Currently Obama is trying to cut down on the overseas workers in the nursing industry and plan to promote and create opportunities for those in the country already. Also you do realize that the Pinoys aren’t the only ones pumping nurses out but also India.
Its not a question of a good job. Its a question of opportunity, while still being able to live comfortably and contribute to society. There are certainly more opportunities to pursue a career in America than it is in the Philippines and be happy about it.
I don’t know what you are trying to get to with this, but nursing isn’t the only noble job or thankless job. And what decides a pretender to someone who is a real professional is still on their abilities, talents, motivation and integrity. There is should be no ‘bad’ in nursing and it shouldn’t be tolerated to begin with. You either do your job or you don’t.
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What’s hard to understand about what I said?
You’re putting things out of context. I never said Nursing was the only noble and thankless job. I said ONE OF THE MOST. I NEVER said that Filipinos were the only ones training Nurses and allowing them to migrate abroad. I am very well aware of the fact that other countries have their own nurses.
What I said and what you said were pretty much the same thing, just in different words. I said America has a lot more job opportunities for people to choose from, and good jobs are hard to find in our own country, would it mean any different if I had said that the Philippines has little job opportunities? NO.
Why do you think Nursing was ignored? Because the US has a damn lot more opportunities.
Hard to find jobs in our country is basically the same as lesser job opportunities. Try and understand what I said in my comment first please.
Look, I don’t know whether you agree with me or not, but that last statement of yours pretty much is the same as what I meant. Nursing is not just a matter of money, but a matter of professionalism. Walking the walk, and not just talking the talk.
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Yes its one of the most thankless, along with teachers, civil servants, law enforcement/fire safety workers, parents and farmers. But that doesn’t mean its value in society isn’t any lower than the occupations I have mentioned. All those occupations need competent, talented and motivated individuals and anything less shouldn’t cut it. It should be implied that anyway otherwise, why get into that profession to begin with.
Once again, No. Age was a factor as there were too many older people getting into it (and getting out at the same time) and certainly the education base for it was declining and rising costs for it. Certainly the american healthcare system with its own system has a hand it the shortage as well. The pay and benefits didn’t change for it for those wanting to make it a career as well. So a varying amount of factors that is not strictly under more opportunities.
There are still many jobs in the country actually, just not ones that require cognitive thinking that allowed you to get a degree as oppose to menial labor. As you can see, there are less opportunities for those jobs that require cognitive thinking in our country than it is over in America. That is what I meant between jobs and opportunity.
Everything else, take it as you will.
My above comment was in response to Sir Mel.
And to sir Chino:
Kudos! I agree on your point of view that many Filipinos tend to over-rate themselves.
Yes, I agree Manny Pac-Man sure is, if not one of the world’s greatest boxers presently, but the Filipino’ have to get over their obsession about him and not let some other guys achievements cloud the way they run their own country. OUR country.
And to vote for Erap, who just got out of prison for crimes against the state and country? I have to say, there are a lot of dumb countrymen out there. Noynoy I could deal with, but seriously? Because of Erap being number 2 overall after the elections, our country has become a major laughing stock around the world.
And as to the issue surrounding Nurses, maybe that Shiela Laurel person had a bad experience with an incompetent nurse? But also remember, there’s a racist inside every one of us. Please don’t generalize those things. If some of my fellow Filipino Nurses think they are the best, let them, but yes, I do think it is better to just keep it to themselves. Every nurse around the world is better than every other nurse, but in different ways.
But anyways, us Filipinos should be making more accomplishments benefiting the country and start being proud of these accomplishments. To be honest, I would have been more proud of our country if the majority had voted for another presidential candidate.
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Thanks. As I typed my reply to you above, this post of yours came in. I really hope that our people gets to realize that needless boasting should be put away, and should not be part of our culture.
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Yep. I agree with you. My profession really needs to be regulated more. And it’s dignity be upheld better. Although I really do see nothing wrong in wanting to work as a nurse for a better future for themselves and their family…
I really hope so too… Filipinos have to start thinking differently, start going with the fad… Start living up to the Filipino identity that they so aggressively boast about.
I’m proud to be Filipino, but not proud of the Filipinos.
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*rolls eyes*
It only becomes racist if you make it into one. Racist issues are so passe nowadays and people like you think the slightest hint of negativity towards a group of people that can sound like a well formed opinion is automatically a target for racism. Besides, you can only prove you are the best in any field by performance and integrity. You should know at least the measure of competency in your field. At least you can be proud that you uphold that competency first, and as a pinoy second.
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People like me? How well do you know me?
Look. I don’t know who the hell you are, but please, try knocking some sense into yourself and start trying to understand what I said.
Yes, to announce to the world you are the best, you have to prove it, but what I said was that if some nurses want to believe they are the best, respect them. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
You clearly don’t get my point.
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And racist issues? Yes, it only becomes racist if you think of it as one. But everyone tends to have a small racist spark inside them, and you’d be a hypocrite if you say otherwise.
To say that every race issue is just a matter of opinion is being ignorant. To say that would be to say that the Ku Klux Klan are just a group of intellectuals voicing out their opinion.
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Okay getting out line here and I suggest you collect your thoughts in one post as opposed to several. It doesn’t necessarily work like a forum.
What you do mean exactly by racist spark? Expound on it or give an analogy, as opposed to creating words that our brethren likes to do. If you are trying to say everyone is a little bit racist, I certainly would agree. I think you misunderstood me in terms of the irrelevancy of race issues because its usually PINOYS coming out with it when someone points out a negativity about them when in fact it has nothing to do HATE. So keep your KKK analogies to yourself because even pinoys and other nations have shown the propensity to be racist to other ethnic groups.
And for the point above, you clearly don’t get MY point. Believing is different from actuallyBEING the best. As they say in America, put your money where your mouth is. You don’t become the best because you have to tell it every body you meet. You show it and prove it otherwise. Otherwise, its just pointless boasting in an occupation that doesn’t need any of it.
*Ooooopppsss…. I mean STOP going with the fad…
LOL.
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Don’t sweat it, I understood.
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@Angelo:
I think you did not get my point.
I am a German Registered Nurse. (ICU/Heart Surgery-Transplantation). I have trained a lot of Filipino Nurses in Munich, Germany, that is why I know what I am talking about. (By the way, some came to work with high heels!!).
I understand your sentiments.
I am sorry if I offended you and thank you for agreeing with me in some points.
You said it: “Good jobs are pretty hard to find in the Philippines”! In a progressive country, you choose a profession because you want do it and not because of money.
There we are, Filipinos, willing to sacrifice for the sake of money! Don’t you realize the fact that nowadays, Nursing demand abroad is decreasing already? We have to make our government move to give solutions to our own unemployment problems, so as not do depend much on other countries.
In the Philippines, Nursing schools are already commercialised. You will see a lot of Nursing students hanging around, waiting for hours only to SEE/OBSERVE the Practical Nursing. Worst, they PAY for affiliations ending up with little or no practical experience at all.
Once abroad, they face the reality that it is really and literally HARD- and DIRTY WORK. Here in the Philippines, Nurses are lucky because the relatives are the ones who take care of the hygiene of the sick patients.
I repeat, there is nothing wrong with Nursing as a profession but something is wrong in the Philippines’ dealing with this profession.
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Yes, I agree with you, it is the fault of the Filipino mentality that has caused this sadness upon our misguided profession.
Thank you for clarifying your stand on the issue.
I am well aware of the fact that demand is decreasing, and I agree, our government has to take steps to fix the unemployment problems our country is facing.
I’m sorry if I misunderstood some of your points and misjudged you so quickly. I’m sure you have heard of the news that the CHED is taking steps to close down a lot of overly commercialized substandard nursing schools, which I think is a good thing. Nursing has become a fad, and the fad is coming to a slow end, and that’s a good thing.
Going abroad doesn’t make you a bad person right? If the individual goes abroad to provide for his family, mainly because of the reason that in our own country we can’t find a good opening. I see nothing wrong with that, the only wrong thing I see is that most of those who go into Nursing are forced to be in it for the money, and I agree with you on that, it is they themselves that misunderstand their own profession, just as Sir Chino said.
In my opinion, the core reason why our manpower is leaving our country to serve others in another country is because the government doesn’t take steps to help our workers attain the resources needed to provide for their family. This doesn’t only apply to nurses, but to other professions as well.
But maybe it’s not just sacrificing for money only, but maybe for other reasons as well right? Some people may be in it because they love it, some may be in it to provide like I have said before, they make their decisions based on practicality, which isn’t bad in itself. In the end, every one has their own choices and we should respect that. We all make sacrifices.
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Everyone makes sacrifices because they are in this condition. There are thankless jobs out there that pay the substandard amount, jobs that NEED experience in order to advance in that career. And how was this condition created you may ask? The answer to that is obvious.
Your opinion is pretty MUCH the spot on answer, besides the fact that AP here has discussed about lack of foreign businesses who could give tremendous opportunities for the people here and completely level the playing field with the current job market.
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Also a short aside for Angelo:
My mother is an NP. Quite honestly a very talented nurse. I think one of the reasons she left the country was because the society of the country won’t let her become the kind of person she wants to be. Much like many fierce, competitive and talented people leave the country because there is nothing for them here so they go to a different land where they respect the government and can pursue their goals and dreams to the highest level and be seen as a valid contributing member of society. And she did after having years of nursing under her and pursuing a masters degree.
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Look, again, what you’re saying and what I’m saying are the same. People leave because our country doesn’t have enough opportunities. People leave because they want to provide. People leave because they want a different life. People leave because it’s the more practical decision.
I don’t know what your point is in saying these things to me, because what you and I are saying are in essence, the same, for the Nth time.
Seriously, we need a moderator to clarify things up.
I’m clarifying to you WHY the sacrifices are being made to begin with!. If nurses, teachers, doctors and dentists were paid a decent amount, there would be THAT opportunity that opens up called a CHOICE. It is not forced to you but something where you CHOOSE where you want to go for your own personal reasons or happiness.
My mother HAS no choice in staying in the country if she were to become the kind of person she wanted to be. Either she gets sucked down with the rest of the slow thinking society, or she moves on and gives her expertise and services in another land. And certainly the people leaving have no choice to stay in the country if they are to provide for their family, even worst if it was a BIG family.
People leave because they HAVE NO CHOICE if they are motivated to get to the greener pastures, which the country cannot provide. Especially in nursing. If Gordon’s idea came through 50k for nurses here would motivate them to stick around longer before deciding to move on.
I think you guys are handling your arguments well enough. At least you’re not like the yellow zombies who’re trumpeting insults to those who didn’t vote their messianic candidate, or who just disagree with them on one little point.
Frankly, I think there’s no one reason why people become nurses abroad – even when they don’t like the job. Can be glory, can be money, can be just an honest living at greener pastures. I just see as the common thread… it sucks here in Pinas. Choice or no choice, it just sucks to be Filipino.
It sucks all the more when all the @$$wipe arrogant fellow Filipinos cause you honest Filipinos to be dragged down as well.
Philippine government has a long standing policy to send people out. The Academic industry goes or sways along with this policy by creating curricula that creates an overflowing pool of nurses, doctors, IT grads, HRMs… etc… This behavior is also enhanced by the perception of the “global demand” for labor.
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There is false pride and boasting in every nation. Let’s not just lump Filipinos into thinking that we are alone in doing so. If there is something wrong about the way this article is presented is that it seems to imply that *all* Filipinos fall in that category.
As for the Facebook ad…please…will you say that every Facebook ad is true? That every accusation thrown in public is true?
I do agree that Filipino nurses are not the best. My baby had a horrid time with Filipino nurses. They didn’t abuse him but their ignorance made his condition worst. But is it just Filipino nurses who make that mistake? No. Every nurse from every nationality makes that mistake. Every nationality in any profession makes dumb mistakes.
I can clearly say that I’m not proud to be a Filipino right now. But I won’t go in as far as making the Filipino self esteem go lower by posting unsubstantiated ads and what not. Yes there is pride and sometimes pride is what is needed to propel a nation. The United States does that. European countries do that. Why cant we? Can’t we say that our pride is misdirected rather than lumping as all as fools.
I’m a Filipino still living in the Philippines. And pardon me for saying this but sometimes I think Filipinos abroad are too harsh with our own people. Yes there are uneducated fools out there but not all of us here are as stupid as you think we may be.
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Care to clarify? Some proof maybe? The reason why the author pointed this out is because as you have read, the pinoys are certainly suspect of this. Besides its your perception if you think that this article implies that all Filipinos have this kid of attitude. But you know the real truth about it anyway if you thought of it.
As of the facebook ad, he was just driving the point home. Its a completely different issue but it certainly falls under the whole patients privacy since it leads to a facebook group with a certain cause to it. In my opinion, they are doing their job making the public aware, not destroying the reputation of nurses which some perceive it as.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114091428611615&v=info
Did you ever think they REALLY DO having something to be proud about? An organized and orderly government system that provides people with social services to help them out. A media that informs people and allows them to choose to be further well informed. A diverse society that believes in progress and efficiency towards a goals and ultimately, a real purpose. All above the kind of meritocracy the Pinoy society embraces and can be proud about.
Certainly in the sea of idiocracy, there are the small collective of individuals who value critical thinking and social awareness. And for a rude awakening, the author happens to live in the Philippines much as I have for over 5 years. Saying pinoys are dumb isn’t just a brash opinion or an over generalization, considering the ugly truth being the result of progress for over 60+ years. 100 is reaching for it anyway. Well, except igorots anyway.
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The pride as misdirected… I agree with that. That’s why I said, pride is not the goal, rather it should be seen as the fringe benefit, the perk. Doing things right is the goal, and you can get pride from that. Be proud of doing things right, not of doing things wrong and escaping unscathed from it. Yan, that’s the twisted thing that fuels Filipino false pride – survival as an achievement. How low can you get.
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Hi, Lee.
Tingin ko lang:
Given that we are not alone with false pride does not make it right. The only conclusion there is that the Philippines is not a lonely fool. So what’s the difference? It will not make things better if we know that we belong to a larger collective of sad sacks.
Kahit maghanap pa tayo ng kakampi na talunan, walang silbi — talunan pa rn tayo. It’s best that we, as a country, move upwards and not seek comfort that there are other “victims” out there. Once we decide on which direction to take (dapat up), then the possibility for us to spot our own sources of pride becomes clearer.
Hopefully, we’ll all get our true pride to come to this country. You need it, we all need it.
Cheers!
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Agree. Our country needs something concrete and solid to be proud of. Not some boxer who decides to run for politics.
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ikaw na lang tumakbo na presidente!..kayabang mo e di mo rin naman alam ang gagawin..ay sus..isa ka sa mga pinoy na dapat sa bundok tumira..para me ka match ang han gin mo…woossshh!!
Tsk, tsk, tsk… Another lesser creature has come to trail its coat… chicco, have you ever realized that simpletons such as yourself are the very reason why this country is in such dire straits? When I read comments such as yours, I see the character of a beast: Incapable of critical thought, such tools demonize those who are otherwise. Read my poem, you pathetic excuse for a human.
http://defender-vindicator.blogspot.com/2010/08/sage-among-fools.html
Verily, it is your ilk that overrun this country and contribute to its instability. Greater ones–those illustrados, they who deserve to be considered humans–are outnumbered by your kind, indio, and some of them have fled, abandoning all hope for this country. These illustrados have every reason to flee, and I salute them for doing it. Perhaps by the time the indio state falls, the descendants of these true humans shall return and take what is rightfully theirs, together with those true humans who stayed and dared to defy the insects that rule.
Humans are rational beings who are capable of thinking critically, the one thing you sorely lack. As that is what you are incapable of, what are you if not a human being? Huang jun, ni bu shi ren!
I’m also in the Philippines, Quezon City, in case anyone’s wondering.
I’m also of the idea that while all nations have a sort of false pride, the way Filipinos trumpet theirs is one of the loudest. Call it the “Spanish pride” manner, braggadocio, if you prefer. But the thing is, other countries have more things to be proud about, and thus they could back up more of their trumpeting. The Philippines has very little to be proud about… and we’re only increasing the reasons for us to look stupid in the international community.
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Lee
I’m a Filipino living in the Philippines… and everyday I have to deal with the following:
1. My neighbor’s videoke and their organ. Trying hard to be divas, balladeers and musicians. Kung araw araw mong napapakingan ang kay Englebert Humperdick na “man without love” hindi ka ba naman matotorete. There’s one kid in that same house who keeps on playing SILENT NIGHT kahit SEMANA SANTA o holy week…
2. The dogs choir. When a dog barks… other dogs in the neighborhood will sing like a choir… Twice I have reported in the barangay two of my neighbors’ dogs… nothing happened. Alam mo ginawa ko…. naglasing ako at pinagsisigawan ko ang mga kapitbahay ko… binato ko pa ng paso yung gate… all they can do is close their windows because i have a gun tucked in my waste. I go by the principle… kung gago sila… mas gago ako… or else they will step down on your rights.
3. Motorcycles… the new kings of the road. Ang lakas ng loob ng mga yan na sumingit… pag sinita mo sila pa ang galit.
4. etc… etc…
The list could go on and on… but here’s my point. Whether we are here or abroad… we perceive these things everyday… the only difference between them (abroad) and us (here) is that they are more free to rant these things than us. Most of us here are clouded by the axioms of the media ads such as “Proud PInoy”… it’s not helping.
The first step in solving the problem is defining what it is and stating what it is… we are not solving it… we just sugar coat it with delusional axioms…
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I also deal on a daily basis all the exasperating Pinoy habits that I never experience in other countries.
1. I really resent it when Filipinos stare too much, whether at me or at a black tourist walking in the streets. Obviously, they know nothing about the 3-Second Rule, meaning if you stare at a person for 3 or more seconds, you’re being impolite to that person. Worse, they continue staring at you even after you caught them. To me not only is it rude, it’s a provocation. Most of the time, Pinoys will keep staring at a black guy passing by and I’ll catch them laughing and ridiculing him. Which comes to another point:
2. ARE PINOYS MORE RACIST? While the rest of the world has moved on and has learned to embrace blacks and their beauty, the Philippines is still stuck with a politically incorrect, bigoted, Apartheid-era mentality. I’m not only talking about the staring and ridiculing, there was this letter sent by a concerned Filipina mother to a major newspaper years ago. She wrote that she’s worried her daughter is going to work in the States because she doesn’t want her “to marry a black.”
And how about those sick old Tito, Vic and Joey movies, where they have an actor painted in black complete with afro wig? In one scene, we see this “black” guy running around and hitting a wall, smearing it with black paint. Of course, the comedy trio’s sick joke here is that “blacks have very black skin that they must be smearing their skin color on everything they touch or get in contact with.”
3. When shopping and I’m browsing the shelves, I hate it when another Filipino shopper suddenly stands right in front of me blocking my view. Bastos! When I’m in a crowded public area with foreigners around, most of the time I’ll see them gesturing and smiling at me and graciously saying “please go ahead,” etc.
4. I really hate it when my neighbors cook “tuyo” and those other stinky dried fish. Not only is the stench offensive, but it seems to stick FOR HOURS to our curtains, upholstery, laundry and just about everything in our house. It’s not the maids who are cooking these, it’s the homeowners themselves. And they live in this upscale neighborhood.
Apparently even if a Pinoy is a trillionaire, his inherent lack of sophistication and decorum means he’ll keep on cooking tuyo or throw garbage out the window while driving his Mercedes. You can dress up a Pinoy with the latest and most expensive Christian Dior, but he’ll still behave like a proto-human.
Oops, my list could go on but I respect the need to keep things short.
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Mad man:
Believe you me – please do come up with your complete list.
isa ka pa..boring siguro buhay mo..ano kaya kung sa munti ka tumira kasama ng idol mong simayor sanchez?..hay buhay..kagagaling mag ingles e?..senyo ba yan???…kung gusto mong marinig nag iyak mo, e di tagalugin mo?..ano ka call center agent??..sabagay marami nyan ngayon…
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oh no…rabid dog on the loose…
@paledot.. ohyeah.. that one dog must be euthanize.. even the pet rescue society would probably shoot THAT one.
As always, ChinoF’s article is spot-on, well-written and well-researched! (As with all of AP’s writers.) All the Pinoys’ grandiose, unsubstantiated and unjustified self-glorification!
Ironically, behind every Filipino “success” is……A FOREIGNER! Pacquaio will be nothing WITHOUT his American trainers and managers. Another prizefighter named Espinosa was losing all the time until a Japanese trainer/manager put him on a winning streak. Pinoy animators working locally are “excelling” because they are supervised by an American or Japanese director. But when it was time for Pinoys to produce an animated movie on their own without ANY foreign involvement like “Urduja” and “Dayo” (or the upcoming 3d film “RPG”), things fell apart.
I used to work in animation and I hear too often Filipino animators bragging “IBA TALAGA ANG PINOY!” Forgetting the fact that most major American high-quality, Oscar worthy productions are sent to Japan and Korea. The projects we get are mostly just Saturday morning TV shows.
It is sad that Filpinos need foreign stimuli, either directly or indirectly, to be galvanized into doing better in their chosen field. And most of the time despite their “best” efforts, they still come up short.
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Yep. The Filipinos love mediocrity.
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Thanks, Mad-man. And about the foreigner behind every Filipino… BINGO! Why can’t everyone else realize this?
We’re so quick to demonize foreigners, but forget that so many good things come from them as well. So much of our very identity comes from them as well (and they take it from other foreign influences as well). If we excise every foreign influence, we might as well drop the Giordanos and Levi’s and go back to everyone’s favorite unisex bahag. hehe
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So like the saying behind every great man there is a great woman (which at times is misinterpreted), its now behind every national pinoy success story there is a successful foreigner.
Even World War 2. There were foreigners who died helping the pinoys but all they did was put macarthur’s statue in Leyte. No other recognition of them whatsoever. Well unless their names were mentioned.
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All just to show the point that this is a world of interdependence. Closing up to foreigners will make us like North Korea or Burma. Even the saying “no man is an island” can apply to a nation.
@Jay
Yes. And I KNOW why they are sacrificing to begin with!
What do you think I’ve been saying for the past few comments? Why do you keep trying to say that I have no idea what my fellow nurses, or other individuals, are sacrificing for? Thank you for clarifying, but my statements did not need any.
I specifically said. There may be sacrificing for their family, may be to do something they love, may be for money, may be because they need to sacrifice. Was that any different from what you said?
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Because they have NO CHOICE!. Sacrifices don’t have to be made if they HAVE A CHOICE. Hence the nature of a sacrifice. They give up something in order to get that choice they are being denied of. In that case, living in the country to work in comfort with friends and family to a foreign, unfamiliar location. If conditions were much better (suntok sa buwan), sacrifices like that would be unnecessary and would be nothing more than an option.
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@Jay
I don’t know why we are arguing when both our statements lead to the same end.
We both agree that to be the best they have to show the best. But I say if they believe they are, respect their self-ideas.
We both agree that people leave the country and sacrifice for their family or loved ones. So why do you speak like I mean a different thing?
By racist spark, I mean that we are all a little racist inside. I agree that when Filipinos are faced with criticism, especially by another national, they tend to shun it as a racist remark.
I see you supported Dick Gordon. So did I, I voted for him. To bad he didn’t win, or even come close to winning.
SO just so we’re both clear, we are agreeing on the same things, are we not? And what I was saying these past few posts are substantially the same as what you have been saying am I right? Please answer so that we have clarification.
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I’m just clarifying certain things. Don’t take it like I’m against your ideas. Especially the concept of pinoys leaving the country for the sake of sacrifice. In fact that word has been so common now that people rather forget its meaning, which is a sort of an exchange of something in order to advance to something else, which really has a negative connotation to it. Given the condition, its not even a choice. They are forced to it but for some reason, people miss the intention of it and just go straight to the fact its a necessity.
Everything else, you and me derailed which was not needed.
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Well, now we’re clear on things… Hehehe. Yep. People forget that it IS a choice. But now some are forced to it. Even at college, which should be about what course the person wants, instead, most are forced by their parents to take up nursing, or any other course that brings in the big bucks. I’m glad I wasn’t one of those forced by my parents.
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Just read this bit from BenK’s blog to show how @$$h0L!c Filipino companies, and not just individuals, can be towards foreigners and fellow Filipinos with a company abroad:
Land of Weasels
Sure ain’t something to be proud of.
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well, we’ve had people telling us not to generalize people, or individuals. At least you showed an example of a collective who screws over their own for their own benefit. Give crappy effort, burn bridges and make friends.
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That’s amazing. Just yesterday I was talking about false Pinoy pride in the animation industry and then you posted that article “Land of Weasels” showing more Pinoy embarassments in said industry. Thanks for this. It seems Pinoys are now doing embarassing things on an international scale.
I know an American who set up an artist’s agency here. He rented a 3-storey building in Caloocan, had it redecorated, bought lots of office furnitures, computers and other equipment. He really spent so much money to make the place look very professional. He then hired his Pinay sister-in-law to manage the business. He went back to the States and after a year, visited his office here unannounced.
Aghast, the American commented “I have offices in the U.S., Canada, Netherlands and Brazil, this is something I’ve never seen before in my 20 years in the business!”
Of course, what we saw here is the birth of racism.
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“Filipinos are the best” = “we white people are superior” = supremacism = racism
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That was obviously the problem with letting the in-law manage the business.
There are heaps of multinational companies in the Philippines that don’t have that kind of mess.
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But I understand your response because I forgot some details on my 1st post: the American has been operating here for years before deciding to set up an office and hiring an in-law. It wasn’t a big enough company back then (it’s just an art agency after all) and everyone worked at home with business conducted through the Internet. But he still needed someone here to organize things so he hired one of his Filipino artists. The American rented a small room for him and bought him 2 computers and a large photocopy machine. But that artist tried to take over the local operations and secretly corresponded with the American’s clients offering them cheaper fees and “better” service. Of course, the artist (or should I say, con-artist) was fired — and sued.
Hoping things will be better, the American decided to be affiliated with a local marketing firm. The same thing happened. Disgusted, he went back to hiring another one of his Filipino artists this time someone he was 1000% certain he could trust since they have worked together for years. Same thing happened.
Fed up and running out of choices, he hired his Pinay sister in-law. So this is really a case of choosing the lesser evil. Atleast business was running smoothly now. Although he no longer has to deal with Filipino dishonesty, he now has to deal with another ugly side of Filipinos — which I already shared on my post above.
bakit kasi yung mga may magandang plano para sa mga OFW eh natalo pa. kainis.
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You know another thing I noticed? All the talk about sacrifice above got me to it. Sacrifice is one of the most misunderstood things in Filipino culture. Sacrifice for me usually happens when something goes wrong. Thus, you have to sacrifice to bear with it.
But some Filipinos like to boast or vindicate themselves with their sacrifices. OFWs might say, “we left our country, we’re separated from our families, we are adjusting to a new culture, we are so great for making these sacrifices.” I disagree. You sacrifice because you need to do it. Sacrifice is not something special. Filipinos like to think that sacrifice gives one moral ascendancy over one who isn’t sacrificing. Which is wrong.
Say a rich man is sacrificing his money to buy a Porsche to donate it to an organization that helps rehabilitate street crooks, giving them livelihood, etc. A poorer man may make the “sacrifice” of not having a TV, radio or computer, but he keeps on visiting neighbors to watch on their TV, listen to their radio and use their computers; and he is a pickpocket in real life, one of the street crooks who should benefit from the rich man’s donation. What is real sacrifice here?
The correct idea for me about sacrifices like these is that it is something we do not really need, and should become unnecessary once our condition has become more stable. Instead, we make the right sacrifices, like follow the laws, stop videokeing loud, stop seeking fame in song and dance contests and just work properly, etc.
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Filipinos like to think that sacrifice gives one moral ascendancy over one who isn’t sacrificing. Which is wrong.
One reason: they point that moral ascendancy to the ultimate sacrifice they know from Christian mythology, Jesu Christo. So they try copy that image in their minds that sacrifice is a moral thing to do because a half mortal/demi god did it and apparently saved humanity. Of course by doing so they miss the practicality of how its used in real life but leave it to the gungong flips to misinterpret the finer details of a delicate word such as sacrifice.
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I must of been a sinner in the past life….. Oh why oh why did u bring me back as a filipino…. ??? perhaps a dog or a monkey would have been a more meaningful existance…..
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I hate the “Yabang Pinoy” rubber band bracelet! It’s stupid to look at.
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**** the phillpines….. ..
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Hindi uso sacrfice sa atin. “instant” ang uso. kapag walang wala ka, hindi ka papansinin. kapag mayroon na, ayun balimbing.
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USO isnt the term.. what uso is.. a trend a pattern of behaviour…
most filipinos do not KNOW, do not have the capabilities to savrafice..
in order tro sacrafice… is to comprimse….
they do not know how to comprimise in the first place , and that is why they cannot sacrafice…
Its not a matter of uso, ..
its more along the lines of.. they do not know what it takes to sacrafice…
look at the politicians…
oh **** i just contradicted myself….. they do know how to sacrafice
the politicians sacraficed and comprimised the future of the people of the phillpines ,
so there individual pockets wernt sacraficed….in the future to come..
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What filipinos describe as a sacrafice,
is what another would normally do..out of nature…
The reason its a sacrafice to them, is because filipionos are naturally lazy like chimps..
so any movement or effort they exhale.. is automatically a sacarafice in there eyes…
they cannot work hard for themselves…
they need a another catalyst in this case a MASTER to tell them what to do.. and they do not what to be mastered by their own race.. instead most commonly the white man…
its what theyve come to grow and love..
its how the spanish have nurtured them since infantry
its programmed in their neurons…
not how many feet but HOW MANY METTRES SIR!!!????
and i will defince gravit yand stay suspeneded in the air just for u SIR!!!!!
thats y people love employing filipinos……. there just wired to take orderss…
but wen it comes down to givng orders…
oh now **** hits the roof… and anarchy is what occurs…..= phillpines state
who notices…….?
through out histroy that when it was left to themselves to fend, and to make independant decsions , is where they have failed… but wen we were colonized HALLELUJAH!!!
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Even in showbiz and TV show, if we are really the best here then why no one except fellow pinoys are watching our own shows abroad while Korean, US and Japanese TV shows are appreciated all over the world?
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Just a slight correction. Filipino shows are watched in dubbed versions all over SE Asia. Malaysians loved Aga. That’s five years ago though. Anywhere else, I don’t think so.
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“If a Filipino becomes a world-infamous criminal who slips past the law every time, you’re still supposed to think of him as the best? The best criminal, maybe?”
LOL they are already doing this, remember the I Love You Virus?
here is proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjll0Oo9E0o&feature=related
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the way the media (and some ignorant fanatics) sensationalizes it, sort of gives you the feeling that our filipino blood is “promil” pinalaklak ng dugong pinoy kaya naging talentado..
race has got nothing to do with talent.
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I love this site! Finally, a website that echoes my sentiments. Two very enthusiastic thumbs up!
P.S. Being proud of Pacquiao and Charice is okay, what’s not okay is that we have nothing else to be proud of. :/
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Why is it that we only get new users when major stuff happens?
Kidding aside, welcome to AP.
Believe or not, I can still write a list of 100 things to be proud about the country. The politics, rotten culture and inefficient thinking are certainly on the very top of my not so proud list.
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kawawa ka naman…wala ka man lang na achieved para maging proud ka sa sarili mo..tst tsk…ano work mo?…ayy oo nga pala..tambay ka pala..nothing to be proud of….haha peace!!
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speaking of which, a little work I found online. (not done by me)
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I remember some friends and co-employees when reading this article. They’d boast and brag about how to go about the system, how to cheat the rules, how to do some more cheating, how to make lies even to your mom and dad so that you can have money for gimiks. It’s one thing that someone does things like lying or cheating. Its something else when one is already doing it and taking pride in those kinds of actions.
–AP is more than just an interesting read, its more on pondering on topics and using your coconut..heheh.and also an outlet
glad to be with AP .. la lang
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oi, may nagwawalang supporter si Pnoy. Langya, mana sa presidente. Di makatanggap ng batikos.
Puro personal atak ka na lang yata.
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your’e a filipino.. you have spoken for yourself :O
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