Dr. José Rizal II Daw?
Mga Kabayan:
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Dear Malou or whoever want to read this....
See how bastos we are? This idiot is using the name of a hero, that we all respect... That's our problem... Most of us think we are the best... but only amongts ourselves.
Note: This idiot will be a subject of my main editorial coming this week at PMP...
JR
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Hawaii and among a huge number of Filipino-Americans born and raised in Hawaii, there's this phenomenon called the "I'm an SCF..."
That's the phenomenon of Filipinos who are of pure kayumanggi-Indio origin, no mix whatsoever, claiming to be of Spanish, Chinese, and other ethnic origin, then lastly saying "Filipino" at the end.
Apparently, some sociologists have pinpointed the cause as the massive low self-esteem that Filipino in Hawaii felt when juxtaposed against other Asian ethnicities such as the Japanese, Chinese, and others.
It's partly because of the very bad news about disasters and misery that reaches America, plus the relative standing of the Pinoy community in comparison with the Japanese and other ethnic groups in Hawaii. While the Japanese do really well as do others (and many started off at low-level manual labor but moved up), the Filipinos there are said to have started off at the same level but most never really moved beyond menial work. Put that together with the miserable picture of the Philippines they get of the slums and the massive poverty, it really makes Filipinos in Hawaii depressed about who they are.
In short, there's must have been some discrimination that went on for a long time for Filipinos to have developed such a "coping mechanism" where they claim extra and additional genetic contributions from Spanish, Chinese, and many other groups, thereby deemphasizing their Filipino-ness.
This problem is most evident when one does an internet search of prominent Hawaii-born Americans of Filipino descent.
1. Tia Carrere - she's PURE PINAY, but she's described as being of "part Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese, some other group" on different sites. The wikipedia article about her says "Spanish, Chinese, Filipino."
2. Mark Dacascos - (martial arts actor) he's Pinoy (mother is half-Japanese helf Irish), but you'll occasionally find references to him being called "part Spanish, Chinese, part Filipino" (refering to his father's side)
3. Jasmine Trias - American idol girl, several websites described her as being "party Spanish, Chinese, Hawaiian and Filipino." How can she be "part-Hawaiian" when both her parents are from Cavite?
In any case, the fact is, Filipinos especially those in Hawaii seem to end up having this burden, so that they make up a false identity that tries to downplay their Filipino-ness simply because being Filipino is seen as baggage that drags one down. They have to make up for it by choosing two civilizations, one which administered the Philippines, the other one, which settled and prospered in the Philippines, both civilizations are known to have had major achievements (exploration and discovery for the Spanish, and scientific inventions and advancements for the Chinese) to "augment" their Filipino-ness.
I do not blame the Filipinos in Hawaii for this. It is merely a coping mechanism that they use in order to lessen their low self-esteem. But this is also a WAKE UP CALL TO FILIPINOS WORLDWIDE.
We cannot continue to make the Philippines look like a sh1thole and continue to make Filipinos look like fools.
Dr. José Rizal II
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i agree with you, Mr. Bobby Manasan..... .things are better compared to the past, seem to be better in some instances, and, of course, there is always room for improvement in most cases. the coming Philippine presidential election is critical because the choice will define what will happen to the future generation and the place of the Philippines in the international socio economic arena. competence and confidence are the true measures of a true leader. one will not work without the other - one may have confidence in the seeming integrity of a candidate with pseudo leadership qualities who will end up like a puppet on a string. it is a risky road to take. then there are those candidates who have been tested like iron to the heat of fire so that they can deal with the challenges of the times - but because of mudslinging may be sidetracked. still there may be candidate/s who are worthy of the presidency but pronounced guilty by association or other "sins"- - unjust verdicts from those who have been taught not to judge others harshly. other candidates may not have a chance but deserve to be applauded for trying. in the end, the filipino people will get the president they deserve. hopefully, this time the filipinos will win.
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"Yes, Bobby, only in Hawaii, Filipinos are not discriminated. .. If you are different then good for you...." - JR
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i have seen discrimination in america but the america of the 1950s and 1960s is a lot different than the america of today. it is getting better, not worse. i can honestly say that life for the minorities are better now than they were 40 or 50 years ago. it is not perfect but it is improving as the years go by.
can you say that life for the poor people in the philippines is a lot better now than they were under the americans 64 years or more ago or is it worse? are the poor better off today or is it only the rich? when the poor can afford to build houses, buy cars and send their children to good schools, is it not because someone in their family is an OFW somewhere and sending money back home? what would happen to the economy if the OFWs stop sending $18 billion dollars a year to the philippines? how can the filipinos be discriminated against in other countries and still be able to remit $18 billion dollars to their families? when the rich filipinos discriminate against their own poor in their own country, what kind of salaries do the poor get? is it anywhere close to $18 billion/year? there is discrimination and then there is discrimination. the kind that pays poor filipinos $18 billion a year is better, don't you think? will that happen in the philippines under any president who wins the next election? i doubt it very much.
i was not talking about myself but all filipinos who have achieved better lives in other countries which they could not have done as well if they had stayed home. if there was discrimination charice would not have been invited by ellen degeneres and oprah and she would not have shared the stage with celine dion, david foster and andrea bocelli. it is talent and skill that matters here, not someone's ethnic origins. same thing with apl de ap and arnel pineda and efren penaflorida and nelson paguyo and OFC FGM anita.
bobby
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Bobby,
There we go again! There's always different amongst Filipinos in America. Of course you are different Bobby... But you never heard those people around you, other people not Filipinos. Majority of us say "No, I am not the same as the others" that talking about Filipinos. Unless you look Irish or better still caucasian then you Bobby, you are very very different from us.
You are still Filipino and part of the problem of bad behavior... Let me know how different are you from the rest of us.
Yes, Bobby, only in Hawaii, Filipinos are not discriminated. .. If you are different then good for you....
Good thing I am not standing next to you, otherwise I am dead already.... And, you don't know who I am (yet). I am ten thousand miles away or above from what you reached.
JR
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i have been to hawaii many times. tell me what you are talking about. what makes them succeed where pinoys failed? i've lived in the US for 45 years and i have never felt discriminated. what do you mean only in hawaii? i have lived in connecticut and virginia and all that mattered was what i can contribute to society and not my ethnic origin. i became a vice president of an american arch/eng/planning company that did projects all over the world. i was respected by the americans and immigrants who worked with me. where was the discrimination?
please tell me what you know about discrimination in america that is worse than the official discrimination against immigrants in the philippines like the koreans and the chinese - their children born in the philippines do not automatically become citizens and they cannot run a business without hiring filipino dummies to run it for them - is that not true? in america they don't have laws discriminatory to immigrants like the filipinos do.
bobby
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Bobby,
Hawaii can not be compared to Philippines, they actually have different history. But mind you only in Hawaii that Filipinos does not feel discriminated.
But you have to go to Hawaii to understand what I am talking about.
JR
"Ito ang sistemang hindi katutubo sa atin bago dumating ang mga Kastila, Amerikano, Hapon..." - mjesus
nawala ba sa mga hawayano ang kanilang katutubong sistema dahil dumating ang kastila at kano? hindi ba dapat mas grabe sila ngayon sa pinoy dahil hindi nila pinaalis ang mga dayuhan sa bayan nila? wala sa relihiyon ang ikabubuti ng gobyerno. kung maayos ang sistema kahit na katoliko, protestante o muslim ang presidente dapat ayos lahat ng mga mamamayan ng bayan. yan lang ang dapat idulot ng tamang sistema sa taong bayan.
nasa kalooban ng tao ang pagiging mabuti sa kapwa. yan lang ang naituturo sa tao ng mga relihiyon. ang mga sistema ang nagpapatakbo ng gobyerno, hindi ang diyos. kapag walang naituturo ang relihiyon sa tao puro kahayupan ang umiiral sa bayan, kahit ano pa ang relihiyon ng mga tao - afghanistan man yan, tsina, hapon, america o pilipinas.
huwag nyong ilabas ang relihiyon nyo sa simbahan, templo o bahay nyo, yun lang ayos na kilos ang kailangan nyong dala-dala at parating ipakita. walang pakialam ang bayan sa mga relihiyon ng mga tao. pantay-pantay lang dapat sila sa pananaw ng gobyerno - walang dapat pinapanigan kahit isa.
bobby
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Magsisi man at huli, walang mangyayari.
Manisi man nang manisi, wala na ring silbi.
Hindi tayo naninisi sa kalagayan nating api.
Sinasabi lang natin ang talagang nangyari:
Nakamana ang ating lahing Pinoy ng masasamang impluwensya sa dayuhan, dahil ang orihinal nating lahing malaya sa maling relihiyon, maling ugali at tradisyon, ay dakilang uri.
Nag-ugat na ito, at sa pag-unlad ng ibang bansa lalo na ng mga sumakop sa atin, nanatili ang kamalian: Ang ating sangkaterbang relihiyon, sinu-sino ba ang nagdala nito bilang kapalit ng iisang relihiyong katutubong sumasamba sa Iisang Diyos? Kung nagkakaiba sa pagsamba, magkakaiba sa pamamahala at pamumuhay. Magkakaiba sa pagsasamahan.
Karaming matatalainong Pinoy sa Pinas at ibang bansa, pero hindi magkakaugali. Parang isang pamilyang hiwalay(broken family) kaya broken tune ang inaawit. Ang malaking isyu: Kapag ang Diyos ay hindi kasama sa uri ng pamamahala, hindi mababago ang takbo ng ating buhay, personal man o barangay, munisipyo, lalawigan, o buong bansa. Sino ba sa mga pulitiko ang may paninindigan sa Batas ng Diyos at nakalaang mamuno at magpatibay ng batas ng taong nakasalalay sa Banal na Kasulatan at halimbawa ng mga Propeta?
Pag-araan muna natin ang Tamang Pagsamba at pagsunod sa Batas ng Diyos at magkaisa sa pagtupad nito.
Ang karaniwang Batas ng mga namamahala ay sariling batas o ng kanilang mga kauri. Ito ang sistemang hindi katutubo sa atin bago dumating ang mga Kastila, Amerikano, Hapon na hanggang ngayon ay namamayani sa Nag-iisang Bansang Katoliko / Kristiyano sa Asya pwera ang East Timor. May sistemang batay sa Batas ng Nag-iisang Lumikha. Ano ang inyong sistema?
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M. Eisa
"Minana natin ang sistemang galing sa dayuhang walang karapatang mamahala sa ating bayang hindi nila pag-aari." - Muhammad Eisa de Jesus
ewan ko lang kung ang sistemang galing sa dayuhang walang karapatang mamahala sa ating bayan ay may natitira pa hanggang ngayon. wala na ang US-style justice system, sinira na rin ang public education system, ang public works system ay kinurakot na, ang public health system wala nang budget. mukhang naitapon na sa basura ang lahat ng sistemang galing sa dayuhan magbuhat nung july 4, 1946 independence day.
ano pa ba ang iniisip nyong natitira pa sa mga minana nating sistema galing sa dayuhan? aber nga? puro mga sistemang pinoy ang umiiral sa pilipinas ngayon kaya tumigil na kayong manisi sa dayuhan. ang sistemang dayuhan umiiral pa sa hawaii, puerto rico, guam, US virgin islands, at marianas islands pero sa pilipinas wala na talaga. okay pa rin silang lahat ngayon pero kayo nalulunod na sa problemang gawa-gawa nyo.
hanggang dayuhan pa ang sinisisi nyo walang asenso pa rin ang pilipinas kasi ayaw pa nyong aminin na kasalanan nyo ang lahat ng kabalbalan na nangyayari diyan. "the imperialist devils made me do it." - ang ibig sabihin nyan wala kayong kasalanan, di ba?
bobby
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