Thursday, November 3, 2011

Comments on “Lara Bohinc and the Aliping Namamahays of the World: Is the Slave Mentality Widespread Among Filipinos?” - 3

  • AlvinEternal

    DaidoKatsumi Reply:

    Ang kahirapan ng Pinoy ay hindi dulot ng korapsyon kundi kabobohan, sobrang pagpa-party at katamaran.

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  • Auriga
    Auriga wrote on 28 October, 2011, 2:34

    Like whoa, looks like someone has a lot of time on their hands. Enough time to spew spam, at least.

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    Lightzout Reply:

    Mmmmmmm… spam.

    You want that well done?

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  • nona wrote on 28 October, 2011, 2:43

    a special place was reserved in hell for cory aquinos hypocrisy and deceit. there is a place for mummy’s boy waiting next to her. like mother, like son.
    pity he didnt have the intellect or passion of his father.
    hacienda luisita massacre
    luneta crisis
    milf fiasco

    life is cheap to gun loving, peasant hating, lazy-noy but the blood on his hands will not wash off

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    Vincenzo B. Arellano Reply:

    Youre wr0ng. Macoy is n0w burning in hell after all the killings he made. Tita Cory is happy in heaven

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    nada Reply:

    And who told you that moron? Your “God”?

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    G. T. Reply:

    Citation needed.

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    AlvinEternal

    DaidoKatsumi Reply:

    “Youre wr0ng. Macoy is n0w burning in hell after all the killings he made. Tita Cory is happy in heaven.”

    Sorry, but Cory is now happy in hell with Marcos. :P

    Mas grabe ang Hacienda Luisita massacre at Mendiola kaysa Martial Law ni Makoy….ang nabiktima sa Martial Law ay lumabag lang sa batas…yung m at h massacre mga inosenteng farmers…. kawawa naman…

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  • Philippino Bob wrote on 28 October, 2011, 9:18

    When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion — when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing — when you see money flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors — when you see that men get richer by graft and pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you — when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice — you may know that your society is doomed.
    Ayn Rand Atlas Shrugged, page 413

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    Vincenzo B. Arellano Reply:

    I hope Tito Noy sees this, mkakatul0ng para makamit ang hustisya ng bwat PilipinO

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    nada Reply:

    What’s the matter fliptard? Getting mad again?

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    G. T. Reply:

    lol, he mad. He probably didn’t understand it.

    Hyden Toro Reply:

    The Yellow’Tard thinks, he is giving good opinions. He is in the World of Delusion; like his Tito Noy….

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  • Hyden Toro wrote on 28 October, 2011, 13:04

    ” There are no tyrants…where there are no slaves.” This statement came from Jose Rizal, a century ago. Jose Rizal already knew the slave mentality of the Filipinos…It continues today, because our government is a Feudal Oligarchy…with a little bit of Theocracy…
    We are OFW slaves of the world…a Filipino servant/slave , may become a class distinction, of the elites, in any country. This is what Aquino EDSA People Power legacy. While they own the Hacienda Luisita; control the economy with their family businesses and their relatives businesses…along with the Oligarchy. They send Filipinos abroad; to earn foreign currency to float the sinking Philippine economy…

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  • Jay wrote on 28 October, 2011, 21:28

    Its funny how Pinoy plebs would be offended to a foreign elite when Pinoy elites dont’ think much about the plebs either. Leave it to pinoy plebs to glorify the Pinoy Maid job because there aren’t enough opportunities back home for it, while there are many of it overseas. And hell, the pinoy maid overseas under a proper person would get paid more than their pinoy equivalent. So of course the Pinoy plebs wouldn’t be bothered to think of education or training with work beyond custodial maintenance operators or waste management operators.

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  • Human wrote on 30 October, 2011, 3:27

    “We have actually raised slavery to the next level – we now export our aliping sagigilids to the world.”

    Any society that thrives on slavery is a backward society. It has not yet matured enough to value other human beings like itself. And whether it’s Western or Eastern does not make a difference. Both are just as crass. Service out of benevolence is admirable. Institutionalized slavery is not.

    “These slave remittances in turn are sent to the Philippines to buy up commodities and services which are all owned by the Filipino oligarchy. “

    To some extent yes. But that’s not entirely true. The Philippine market is as flooded with useless cheap junk from other countries as is with homeborne junk. The “oligarchs” aren’t alone in milking the Filipino ignorance. They are just as susceptible to foreign interests. China has already killed most of the local industries by flooding it with cheaper varieties that are all funded by their own government. It may appear beneficial to the consumer, but in the long-run, NO, because we would all be dependent on these manufacturers with no homegrown jobs, technologies and capacity to pay these countries back. We should have funded micro-businesses to flourish and introduce their own local technologies and made sure humans have well-paying and sustainable jobs at home, but instead we not only exported humans, we also imported finished products with no viable future for both.

    When the teapot is full, it will explode. I expect unrest brewing as humans find themselves helpless in all of our machinations. And there would be no respite from all of it because the natural tendencies of the human is to survive. No amount of sophistry, rhetorics, and Louie Vuitton whatnot could save us from natural forces–not even a quite-convincing web article.

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  • malcolmconlan wrote on 30 October, 2011, 16:27

    Please be aware that the petition which you mentioned below was started by a “Filipino group” was in fact started by myself and I am not even Filipino! However I am part of a Pinoy family and am very PROUD to be so! I will not accept racism, will you?

    This statement is already being challenged by Filipino groups who are demanding an apology from Lara Bohinc. For example this petition states
    We the undersigned believe that the comments made by designer Lara Boninc are unacceptable, why is the Nationality of her maid of any relevance?
    We would request an apology for the offence caused!

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    AlvinEternal

    DaidoKatsumi Reply:

    Fact: malcolmconlan is another troll who should be wiped out.

    Sorry, but you wanted to treat us Pinoy as ‘gods.’

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    Dark Passenger Reply:

    Thanks for your concern, but if you know anything at all about Filipinos, it’s that you’re in for the long haul. Prepare to make countless similar petitions in the future, because like I said earlier, if Filipinos don’t change, then they’re practically asking to be insulted.

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    Jay Reply:

    And no racism has been given. Please, stop looking for what doesn’t exist here kind sir.

    why is the Nationality of her maid of any relevance?

    And what is the national relevance of Bohinc’s statement to Filipinos? No other [insert ethnicity] maid makes a crack but when it is about Pinoys, it should be made an issue? Step back a moment and reflect on your war on ‘racism’. In fact, I ask you and those who signed to look at the mirror and see where the real racism is at. You may be surprised. That is if you know where to look.

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  • malcolmconlan wrote on 30 October, 2011, 16:28

    By the way, you are most welcome to sign my petition, please see the link below!

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/lara-bohinc-the-filipino-community-deserve-an-apology/signatures.html

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  • Dark Passenger wrote on 30 October, 2011, 23:13

    Imagine you stink. You know for a fact that you stink. Then some foreigner says to you, “You smell like sh*t.” You cry because your feelings got hurt when he stated the obvious, and he apologizes. But you don’t go straight home to bathe and put on some deodorant. You’d rather go unwashed and wear the same stinking clothes each time. The next day, same thing happens again. Another foreigner tells you “You stink.” Again you cry, yet you continually refuse to clean yourself up. Does it really take a rocket scientist to figure out what’s wrong with this scenario?

    That is the Filipino situation right there. If we don’t get our act together, then don’t expect the ‘insults’ to stop coming.

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    Jay Reply:

    welcome to the “real” world pinoys, where everyone isn’t cut from the roman catholic cloth, were people have strict ethics and at times aren’t afraid to say the cold truth and getting along isn’t a compromise but a mutual agreement on truth.

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  • Pugot wrote on 31 October, 2011, 0:44

    LOL, “Filipino maid…”
    Remember when Claire Danes said that Manila was ghastly? Then everybody classified her as persona non grata (like Danes cares). Then Desperate Housewives belittled the universities in the Philippines (turns out that the top universities in the Philippines are considered one of the worst in the world)? Then many Filipinos have been complaining about NAIA; then it took a foreign observer for us to realize that our airport does suck. WHY DO FILIPINOS WAIT FOR OUTSIDERS TO TELL US THAT OUR SOCIETY IS PHUCKED UP? And only then do we acknowledge our flaws?
    That’s okay, they can continue to insult us, all we need to do is for ABS-CBN to interview a visiting foreigner and the reporter as usual would fish for complements. Then we’ll feel better about ouselves like nothing is wrong with our country.

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    Dark Passenger Reply:

    “And only then do we acknowledge our flaws?”

    The jury’s still out on that. ;D

    “all we need to do is for ABS-CBN to interview a visiting foreigner and the reporter as usual would fish for complements.”

    IKR? God, it’s so pathetic. Can’t really say ignorance is the cause of all our problems because I assume these reporters are educated? But like the rest of the Pilipins, they are insecure. They need foreigners’ (particularly whites) approval to feel good about themselves, even if they have to fish for it. So when these same foreigners that they look up to so much say something negative instead, their lovely little bubble bursts and their whining can be heard all the way on the opposite side of the globe. How utterly sad and desperate. Yan ba ang Pinoy Pride na pinagmamalaki ng mga Pinoy?

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    Jay Reply:

    what do you expect out of something that was built out of shoddy foundation? ThePinoy Pridebeing perpetuated is based on the foundation of platitudes and shallow compliments. As quickly as it is given, it can easily be taken away.

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    jrock* Reply:

    I actually have a Canadian friend that went to the Philippines a while back (he’s white). He was telling me that after he landed at NAIA, he went to a Burger Machine to grab something to eat. Immediately after he got his burgers, a small kid went up to him and started begging for something to eat. He went and bought the kid a burger, and the kid went on his merry way without even saying thank you. A few minutes later, the whole family show up to beg for food, and he was like “Screw you guys, I’m outta here.” He then got explosive diarrhea a few hours later.

    We started talking about his adventures throughout the country. He thought Manila was a dump, and I agreed with him; kinda hard not to. He didn’t like the airport because it’s a dump, and I could do nothing but agree. He enjoyed Baguio quite a bit. He probably would have enjoyed it more had he not contracted pink eye. He loved Catanduanes, Boracay and Subic. He loved how the locals invited him for dinner, although I suspect that it has more to do with foreign worship than anything else; I can’t confirm nor deny.Irregardless, he enjoyed his time there. He’s going back to the Philippines this winter.

    From all of his stories, it made me think that for all the rampant corruption of the government, the apathy of the masses, the false sense of pride, and the backwards illogical thinking that we have seen from our fellow Filipinos (at one point I was part of that, I have since gained some enlightenment, I think), there is still inherent beauty left in the Philippines that still attracts the tourist and the locals, and that’s what we have to protect. The Filipino people have to change, and change fast. I’m not gonna go through all of that, as this site has done a marvelous job in illustrating what those changes have to be. We have to protect that; we owe it to the next generation, to somehow leave everything better than how we found it. And it beats looking at snow for six months. Goddamn I can’t believe it’s winter already!

    I guess that’s my $0.02…

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  • cdek!m wrote on 31 October, 2011, 23:57

    I’ve been reading Vincenzo’s post from other topics and raves about his Tito Noy. Is this guy for real? Parang nangtitirip lang kasi e. If not, hands down ako sayo pre! You’re a real fanatic!

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  • Jett Rink wrote on 1 November, 2011, 9:42

    in a perfect world, would there still be a need for maids (or butlers, housecleaners, etc)? if yes, who should be the maids? for kate moss, who’s a brit, should it be a brit maid? or for lara bohinc, a slovenian maid? or should kate moss or lara bohinc make up their own beds and wash their own dishes?

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  • nona wrote on 1 November, 2011, 10:53

    @jettrink
    in a perfect world your maid would be kate moss.
    ( as an aside i went swimming with her a few years ago. just amazing skin and of course body, but a fruit and nutcase. we were both in rehab at the time)

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    Jett Rink Reply:

    i could admire the skin, but is she really that thin? reed like women, even those possessing beautiful faces, are not my type. i prefer them buxom hehe.

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  • nona wrote on 2 November, 2011, 6:30

    @jettrink

    Maybe, but i bet you wouldnt say no.
    That would be as stupid as being in a barrel of breasts and come out sucking your thumb.

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  • Jake wrote on 2 November, 2011, 8:56

    Nice piece. For once, I have nothing to add.

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  • palahubug99 wrote on 2 November, 2011, 9:58

    I can see why the comment can be perceived to be offensive & insulting. Bohinc could have just said “maid” instead of “Filipina maid”. Why include the nationlity? Does Kate Moss even have a “Filipina maid”? Bohinc threw that in IMO derogatorily.

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    BongV

    BongV Reply:

    pinoys should grow thicker hides – and learn to roll with the punches.

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    palahubug99 Reply:

    Roll with the punches – got it! I’m just saying why Pinoys might find this offensive. Boombais in general don’t want to portrayed as the teeming poor in Calcutta with all the advances they’ve made in technology outsourcing. Why? Nakakahiya. Yet, there are still millions of teeming poor in India.

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    Jay Reply:

    The image may be tarnishing to whatever reputation they may try uphold, but it is reality. Much like how the Philippines love to live off reputation but at times can’t deal with the harsh reality that better paints the image of the country.

    As BongV said, Pinoys should know when to associate things correctly. Its that mindset that lets them be distracted by inane issues that don’t really matter and misplace it as derogatory. And thus make really stupid demands out of it. When demands are met, it doesn’t change anything either.

    Jay Reply:

    Sorry if I didn’t add this but as AP already discussed about this, Pinoys approach the ‘nakakahiya’ issue in a TOTALLY wrong way. Instead of targeting the possible source of the discrepancy, they shoot AT the messenger! They don’t question the fault of the social issue (for I don’t know what reason, most likely their misplaced pride) but immediately fault the person who said it. Yes other countries may do this too but the Pinoys joining in on this little behavior doesn’t make them any better.

    palahubug99 Reply:

    True, but fixing the problem of why Pinays migrate to become DH/OFW elsewhere could take years. Attacking the messenger pays off now.

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